DLEP DiffServ Aware Credit Window Extension
draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-21
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2025-04-16
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21 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT from MISSREF |
2025-04-08
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21 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from Waiting on Authors |
2025-04-07
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2025-04-03
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21 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to MISSREF |
2025-04-03
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21 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2025-04-03
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21 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2025-04-03
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21 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2025-04-03
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21 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2025-04-03
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21 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2025-04-03
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21 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2025-04-03
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21 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
2025-03-06
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21 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
2025-03-06
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21 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2025-03-04
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21 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my comments. |
2025-03-04
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21 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mahesh Jethanandani has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2025-03-03
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21 | (System) | Changed action holders to Jim Guichard (IESG state changed) |
2025-03-03
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21 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed |
2025-03-03
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21 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2025-03-03
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21 | Donald Eastlake | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-21.txt |
2025-03-03
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21 | Donald Eastlake | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Donald Eastlake) |
2025-03-03
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21 | Donald Eastlake | Uploaded new revision |
2025-02-13
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20 | (System) | Changed action holders to Lou Berger, Donald Eastlake, Bow-Nan Cheng, David Wiggins (IESG state changed) |
2025-02-13
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20 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2025-02-06
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20 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
2025-02-06
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20 | Zaheduzzaman Sarker | [Ballot comment] I could not escape the question that why is this a separete document. |
2025-02-06
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20 | Zaheduzzaman Sarker | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker |
2025-02-06
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20 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2025-02-05
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20 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy |
2025-02-05
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20 | John Scudder | [Ballot comment] One small comment — “when both DiffServ and Ethernet traffic classification are specified for a flow, the Ethertype information takes precedence” I guess … [Ballot comment] One small comment — “when both DiffServ and Ethernet traffic classification are specified for a flow, the Ethertype information takes precedence” I guess you mean “Ethernet”, not “Ethertype”. |
2025-02-05
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20 | John Scudder | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for John Scudder |
2025-02-05
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20 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot discuss] Here, here! This DISCUSS is just that. A DISCUSSion around how something could be clarified better. I expect it should be fairly easy … [Ballot discuss] Here, here! This DISCUSS is just that. A DISCUSSion around how something could be clarified better. I expect it should be fairly easy to address it. Section 3, paragraph 2 > If this extension is supported, that support MUST be declare using > the Extensions Supported Data Item (see Section 13.6 of [RFC8175]). > DiffServ Aware Credit Window Extension Data Items MUST NOT be emitted > by a DLEP participant unless such support was specified in the > initialization message received from its peer. The use of the > extension defined in this document SHOULD be configurable on both > modems and routers. The document clearly states that the extension needs to be configured on both modems and routers. Further down there are references to "network management mechanisms", which could imply NETCONF/RESTCONF, or they could also imply Syslog but that is not entirely clear reading the document. How exactly is this feature going to be configured or managed? For reference, please refer to Section 3 of RFC 5706. |
2025-02-05
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20 | Mahesh Jethanandani | Ballot discuss text updated for Mahesh Jethanandani |
2025-02-05
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20 | Orie Steele | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Orie Steele |
2025-02-04
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20 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Paul Kyzivat for the GENART review. |
2025-02-04
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20 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2025-02-04
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20 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gunter Van de Velde |
2025-02-03
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20 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot comment] I support Deb's DISCUSS/COMMENTS on the Security Considerations for these documents |
2025-02-03
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20 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Paul Wouters |
2025-02-02
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20 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot comment] Section 4: If changes are made to update the Security Consideration sections of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control, I recommend this draft reference one … [Ballot comment] Section 4: If changes are made to update the Security Consideration sections of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control, I recommend this draft reference one or both of those drafts. Section 4: Wildcards are literally mentioned only in the Introduction and here. I certainly don't mind the recommendation in this section, but should this be a standalone paragraph? And should it appear in some/all of the other drafts in the group? Section 4, last sentence: Does this apply to the wildcard topic? Or something else, maybe the second sentence? I think this section could use some restructuring. |
2025-02-02
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20 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deb Cooley |
2025-02-01
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20 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot discuss] Here, here! This DISCUSS is just that. A DISCUSSion around how something could be clarified better. I expect it should be fairly easy … [Ballot discuss] Here, here! This DISCUSS is just that. A DISCUSSion around how something could be clarified better. I expect it should be fairly easy to address it. Section 3, paragraph 2 > If this extension is supported, that support MUST be declare using > the Extensions Supported Data Item (see Section 13.6 of [RFC8175]). > DiffServ Aware Credit Window Extension Data Items MUST NOT be emitted > by a DLEP participant unless such support was specified in the > initialization message received from its peer. The use of the > extension defined in this document SHOULD be configurable on both > modems and routers. The document clearly states that the extension needs to be configured on both modems and routers. Further down there are references to "network management mechanisms", which could imply NETCONF/RESTCONF, or they could also imply Syslog but that is not entirely clear reading the document. How exactly is this feature going to be configured if there is no YANG module defined or planned? Can it be explained better? |
2025-02-01
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20 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot comment] All comments below are about very minor potential issues that you may choose to address in some way - or ignore - as … [Ballot comment] All comments below are about very minor potential issues that you may choose to address in some way - or ignore - as you see fit. Some were flagged by automated tools (via https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool), so there will likely be some false positives. There is no need to let me know what you did with these suggestions. Section 1, paragraph 1 > The Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) is defined in [RFC8175]. > This protocol provides the exchange of link related control > information between DLEP peers. DLEP peers consist of a modem and a > router. DLEP defines a base set of mechanisms as well as support for > possible extensions. This document defines one such extension. s/This protocol/The protocol/ Document references draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-16, but -17 is the latest available revision. Document references draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-07, but -08 is the latest available revision. Section 1, paragraph 2 > ws may be shared or dedicated on a per flow basis. See [I-D.ietf-manet-dlep-e > ^^^^^^^^ In this context, "per-flow" forms an adjective and is spelled with a hyphen. Section 2, paragraph 1 > is supported, that support MUST be declare using the Extensions Supported D > ^^^^^^^^^^ There may an error in the verb form "be declare". |
2025-02-01
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20 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Mahesh Jethanandani |
2025-01-31
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20 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2025-01-31
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20 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2025-01-08
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20 | Jenny Bui | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2025-02-06 |
2025-01-08
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20 | Jim Guichard | Ballot has been issued |
2025-01-08
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20 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
2025-01-08
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20 | Jim Guichard | Created "Approve" ballot |
2025-01-08
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20 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup |
2025-01-08
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20 | Jim Guichard | Ballot writeup was changed |
2024-12-15
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20 | Donald Eastlake | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-20.txt |
2024-12-15
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20 | Donald Eastlake | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Donald Eastlake) |
2024-12-15
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20 | Donald Eastlake | Uploaded new revision |
2024-11-22
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19 | Don Fedyk | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-19.txt |
2024-11-22
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19 | Don Fedyk | New version approved |
2024-11-22
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19 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Bow-Nan Cheng , David Wiggins , Lou Berger , manet-chairs@ietf.org |
2024-11-22
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19 | Don Fedyk | Uploaded new revision |
2024-10-18
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18 | Carlos Pignataro | Closed request for Last Call review by OPSDIR with state 'Overtaken by Events' |
2024-10-18
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18 | Carlos Pignataro | Assignment of request for Last Call review by OPSDIR to Nagendra Nainar was marked no-response |
2024-08-29
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18 | Daniam Henriques | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: He Jia. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
2024-08-06
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18 | Daniam Henriques | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: He Jia. |
2024-08-06
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18 | Zheng Zhang | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Zheng Zhang. Sent review to list. |
2024-08-02
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18 | Giuseppe Fioccola | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Giuseppe Fioccola. Review has been revised by Giuseppe Fioccola. |
2024-08-02
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18 | Giuseppe Fioccola | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Giuseppe Fioccola. Sent review to list. |
2024-07-26
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18 | Tero Kivinen | Closed request for Last Call review by SECDIR with state 'Overtaken by Events' |
2024-07-25
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18 | Daniam Henriques | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR is assigned to Zheng Zhang |
2024-07-23
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18 | Joseph Salowey | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Joseph Salowey. Sent review to list. |
2024-07-23
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18 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Giuseppe Fioccola |
2024-07-23
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18 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2024-07-23
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18 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::AD Followup from Last Call Requested |
2024-07-23
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18 | Jim Guichard | Requested Last Call review by RTGDIR |
2024-07-23
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18 | Jim Guichard | Requested Last Call review by OPSDIR |
2024-07-23
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18 | Jim Guichard | Requested Last Call review by SECDIR |
2024-07-23
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18 | Jim Guichard | Last call was requested |
2024-07-23
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18 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2024-07-22
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18 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2024-07-22
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18 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-18.txt |
2024-07-22
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18 | Lou Berger | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
2024-07-22
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18 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
2024-07-09
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17 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2024-07-09
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17 | David Dong | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-17. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-17. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the Extension Type Value Registry in the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/dlep-parameters/ a single new extension type will be registered from the Specification Required range as follows: Code: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: DiffServ Aware Credit Window Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] As this document requests a registration in an Expert Review or Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we have completed the required Expert Review via a separate request. We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The action requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the action that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
2024-07-09
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17 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2024-07-02
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17 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Nagendra Nainar |
2024-07-02
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17 | Paul Kyzivat | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Paul Kyzivat. |
2024-06-29
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17 | Daniam Henriques | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR is assigned to He Jia |
2024-06-28
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17 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Joseph Salowey |
2024-06-27
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17 | David Dong | IANA Experts State changed to Expert Reviews OK from Reviews assigned |
2024-06-26
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17 | David Dong | IANA Experts State changed to Reviews assigned |
2024-06-26
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17 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Paul Kyzivat |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jenny Bui | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jenny Bui | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-07-09): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension@ietf.org, james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, manet-chairs@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, ronald.intvelt@tno.nl … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-07-09): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension@ietf.org, james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, manet-chairs@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, ronald.intvelt@tno.nl Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (DLEP DiffServ Aware Credit Window Extension) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG (manet) to consider the following document: - 'DLEP DiffServ Aware Credit Window Extension' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2024-07-09. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines an extension to the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) that enables a DiffServ aware credit-window scheme for destination-specific and shared flow control. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jenny Bui | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Requested Last Call review by RTGDIR |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Requested Last Call review by OPSDIR |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Requested Last Call review by SECDIR |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Last call was requested |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Last call announcement was generated |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Ballot approval text was generated |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Ballot writeup was generated |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2024-06-25
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17 | Jim Guichard | Changed action holders to Jim Guichard |
2024-06-24
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17 | (System) | Changed action holders to Stan Ratliff, Jim Guichard (IESG state changed) |
2024-06-24
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17 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed |
2024-06-24
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17 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-17.txt |
2024-06-24
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17 | Lou Berger | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
2024-06-24
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17 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
2024-05-22
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16 | (System) | Changed action holders to Jim Guichard, Bow-Nan Cheng, Stan Ratliff, Lou Berger (IESG state changed) |
2024-05-22
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16 | Jim Guichard | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from Publication Requested |
2024-05-22
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16 | Jim Guichard | AD review completed === https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/Sa0clQQUKhcE35d1uvM5R9FJgIQ/ === |
2024-05-10
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16 | Ronald in 't Velt | Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, … Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This document is part of a cluster of four which together specify a credit-base flow control extension to the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP, RFC8175). The companion documents are: - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. There was strong consensus early on in the WG that it would be beneficial to have a Flow Control extension to DLEP that is more sophisticated than the Control-Plane-based Pause approach specified in RFC 8651. Most of the remaining discussion revolved around how to best structure and modularize the specification. (See answer to question 2). 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There was discussion (rather than controversy) on how the functional elements of credit-based flow control should be distributed over separate documents. Between IETF 100 and IETF 103, the specification went from being contained in a single document to being broken down into four separate ones. Traffic Classification was split off, because it is considered a generic mechanism that can be useful for other purposes than flow control alone. draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was the original monolithic specification, that was reduced to merely defining the Extension Type value after Message and Data Item definitions were moved to draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. Using IEEE 802.1Q fields of Ethernet frames instead of DS fields in IP packets as an alternative way of distinguishing flows made it necessary to define an additional Extension Type value in draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. The motivation for having both Extension Type values in separate documents is to allow implementers of DLEP to specify exactly which extensions they support by means of RFC numbers. The TSV ART reviewer commented that draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was very light on content and strongly suggested to merge this document into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. (At the time, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension had not yet been subjected to TSV ART early review). The WG considered this suggestion around IETF 113 and again at IETF 115, but decided that reasons for the four-way split were still valid and to therefore stick to that structure. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This document's shepherd has no knowledge of existing implementations. Since this document (and its companions) describes an extension to DLEP (RFC 8175), a starting point for an implementation could be the open source DLEP library, to which David Wiggins (one of the authors of this document) is the main contributor: https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-DLEP . There has been some discussion on the mailing list on how to implement the router side of credit-based flow control (in Linux, specifically): https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/MPTLhKgaljq1BRdjE_dEk9x1YhI/ Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. A TSV ART Early Review took place. Main concern was the split in three different documents. (See answer to question 2). Some additional issues have been resolved. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. A RtgDir review still needs to take place. None of the other expert reviews mentioned (MIB Doctor, etc.) apply to this document. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? This document does not contain a YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. This document contains no formal language. The shepherd has carefully reviewed this draft, as documented at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/G2jFmOqhfgToRpnBBvswdopJHwg/ These comments have been resolved. Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. Do any such issues remain that would merit specific attention from subsequent reviews? Shepherd has not identified any such issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track as indicated on the title page. This document and its companion documents specify a more sophisticated and finer-grained flow control mechanism than the one defined in RFC 8651 (which is a Proposed Standard). Moreover, credit-based flow control is an explicit work item on the WG's charter, whereas Control-Plane-Based Pause (RFC 8651) was not (and was criticized for that reason during IESG review). 12. Has the interested community confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required by BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any discussion and conclusion regarding the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosures, including links to relevant emails. See IPR statements at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/VmfIkhXerMCx3IXfa7pNfzxH4r8/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/itiAXwQ7dQaerG43rTH6SXNiDdY/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/CPfo7N_BrN2V1_GP8n92l3U3Jzw/ It appears that no IPR is being claimed. 13. Has each Author or Contributor confirmed their willingness to be listed as such? If the number of Authors/Editors on the front page is greater than 5, please provide a justification. Implicitly as per question 12 above. Sadly, David Wiggins passed away in 2023. 14. Identify any remaining I-D nits in this document. (See the idnits tool and the checkbox items found in Guidelines to Authors of Internet-Drafts). Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the entire guidelines document. The document adheres to the naming convention for Internet-Drafts. The document contains all the required sections. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? The shepherd believes the references to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are to RFCs (or RFCs-to-be, in two cases). 17. Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967, BCP 97)? If so, list them. There are no downward normative references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion? This document has normative references to two of its companion documents (see answer to question 1), draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, which are assumed to go through post-WG review and processing steps alongside it. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. This document (together with its companion documents, see answer to question 1) defines an extension to RFC 8175, in the same way as RFC 8629, RFC 8651, RFC 8703 and RFC 8757 do, but it does not change the status of RFC 8175 or any other RFC. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). This document adds one entry to the existing DLEP Extensions Registry named "Extension Type Values". This addition is in the range with a "Specification Required" policy. This document does not create new IANA registries. The requested action in the IANA Considerations Section (section 5) has been found to be consistent with the body of the document. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. This document does not create new IANA registries. |
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16 | Ronald in 't Velt | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
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16 | Ronald in 't Velt | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
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16 | (System) | Changed action holders to Jim Guichard (IESG state changed) |
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16 | Ronald in 't Velt | Responsible AD changed to Jim Guichard |
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16 | Ronald in 't Velt | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
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16 | Ronald in 't Velt | Tag Awaiting Expert Review/Resolution of Issues Raised cleared. |
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16 | Ronald in 't Velt | Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, … Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This document is part of a cluster of four which together specify a credit-base flow control extension to the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP, RFC8175). The companion documents are: - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. There was strong consensus early on in the WG that it would be beneficial to have a Flow Control extension to DLEP that is more sophisticated than the Control-Plane-based Pause approach specified in RFC 8651. Most of the remaining discussion revolved around how to best structure and modularize the specification. (See answer to question 2). 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There was discussion (rather than controversy) on how the functional elements of credit-based flow control should be distributed over separate documents. Between IETF 100 and IETF 103, the specification went from being contained in a single document to being broken down into four separate ones. Traffic Classification was split off, because it is considered a generic mechanism that can be useful for other purposes than flow control alone. draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was the original monolithic specification, that was reduced to merely defining the Extension Type value after Message and Data Item definitions were moved to draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. Using IEEE 802.1Q fields of Ethernet frames instead of DS fields in IP packets as an alternative way of distinguishing flows made it necessary to define an additional Extension Type value in draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. The motivation for having both Extension Type values in separate documents is to allow implementers of DLEP to specify exactly which extensions they support by means of RFC numbers. The TSV ART reviewer commented that draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was very light on content and strongly suggested to merge this document into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. (At the time, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension had not yet been subjected to TSV ART early review). The WG considered this suggestion around IETF 113 and again at IETF 115, but decided that reasons for the four-way split were still valid and to therefore stick to that structure. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This document's shepherd has no knowledge of existing implementations. Since this document (and its companions) describes an extension to DLEP (RFC 8175), a starting point for an implementation could be the open source DLEP library, to which David Wiggins (one of the authors of this document) is the main contributor: https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-DLEP . There has been some discussion on the mailing list on how to implement the router side of credit-based flow control (in Linux, specifically): https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/MPTLhKgaljq1BRdjE_dEk9x1YhI/ Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. A TSV ART Early Review took place. Main concern was the split in three different documents. (See answer to question 2). Some additional issues have been resolved. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. A RtgDir review still needs to take place. None of the other expert reviews mentioned (MIB Doctor, etc.) apply to this document. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? This document does not contain a YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. This document contains no formal language. The shepherd has carefully reviewed this draft, as documented at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/G2jFmOqhfgToRpnBBvswdopJHwg/ These comments have been resolved. Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. Do any such issues remain that would merit specific attention from subsequent reviews? Shepherd has not identified any such issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track as indicated on the title page. This document and its companion documents specify a more sophisticated and finer-grained flow control mechanism than the one defined in RFC 8651 (which is a Proposed Standard). Moreover, credit-based flow control is an explicit work item on the WG's charter, whereas Control-Plane-Based Pause (RFC 8651) was not (and was criticized for that reason during IESG review). 12. Has the interested community confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required by BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any discussion and conclusion regarding the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosures, including links to relevant emails. See IPR statements at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/VmfIkhXerMCx3IXfa7pNfzxH4r8/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/itiAXwQ7dQaerG43rTH6SXNiDdY/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/CPfo7N_BrN2V1_GP8n92l3U3Jzw/ It appears that no IPR is being claimed. 13. Has each Author or Contributor confirmed their willingness to be listed as such? If the number of Authors/Editors on the front page is greater than 5, please provide a justification. Implicitly as per question 12 above. Sadly, David Wiggins passed away in 2023. 14. Identify any remaining I-D nits in this document. (See the idnits tool and the checkbox items found in Guidelines to Authors of Internet-Drafts). Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the entire guidelines document. The document adheres to the naming convention for Internet-Drafts. The document contains all the required sections. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? The shepherd believes the references to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are to RFCs (or RFCs-to-be, in two cases). 17. Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967, BCP 97)? If so, list them. There are no downward normative references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion? This document has normative references to two of its companion documents (see answer to question 1), draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, which are assumed to go through post-WG review and processing steps alongside it. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. This document (together with its companion documents, see answer to question 1) defines an extension to RFC 8175, in the same way as RFC 8629, RFC 8651, RFC 8703 and RFC 8757 do, but it does not change the status of RFC 8175 or any other RFC. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). This document adds one entry to the existing DLEP Extensions Registry named "Extension Type Values". This addition is in the range with a "Specification Required" policy. This document does not create new IANA registries. The requested action in the IANA Considerations Section (section 5) has been found to be consistent with the body of the document. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. This document does not create new IANA registries. |
2024-03-18
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16 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-16.txt |
2024-03-18
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16 | Tess Chapeta | Posted submission manually |
2024-03-16
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15 | Ronald in 't Velt | WORK IN PROGRESS Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, … WORK IN PROGRESS Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This document is part of a cluster of four which together specify a credit-base flow control extension to the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP, RFC8175). The companion documents are: - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. There was strong consensus early on in the WG that it would be beneficial to have a Flow Control extension to DLEP that is more sophisticated than the Control-Plane-based Pause approach specified in RFC 8651. Most of the remaining discussion revolved around how to best structure and modularize the specification. (See answer to question 2). 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There was discussion (rather than controversy) on how the functional elements of credit-based flow control should be distributed over separate documents. Between IETF 100 and IETF 103, the specification went from being contained in a single document to being broken down into four separate ones. Traffic Classification was split off, because it is considered a generic mechanism that can be useful for other purposes than flow control alone. draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was the original monolithic specification, that was reduced to merely defining the Extension Type value after Message and Data Item definitions were moved to draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. Using IEEE 802.1Q fields of Ethernet frames instead of DS fields in IP packets as an alternative way of distinguishing flows made it necessary to define an additional Extension Type value in draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. The motivation for having both Extension Type values in separate documents is to allow implementers of DLEP to specify exactly which extensions they support by means of RFC numbers. The TSV ART reviewer commented that draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was very light on content and strongly suggested to merge this document into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. (At the time, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension had not yet been subjected to TSV ART early review). The WG considered this suggestion around IETF 113 and again at IETF 115, but decided that reasons for the four-way split were still valid and to therefore stick to that structure. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This document's shepherd has no knowledge of existing implementations. Since this document (and its companions) describes an extension to DLEP (RFC 8175), a starting point for an implementation could be the open source DLEP library, to which David Wiggins (one of the authors of this document) is the main contributor: https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-DLEP . There has been some discussion on the mailing list on how to implement the router side of credit-based flow control (in Linux, specifically): https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/MPTLhKgaljq1BRdjE_dEk9x1YhI/ Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. A TSV ART Early Review took place. Main concern was the split in three different documents. (See answer to question 2). Some lesser issue are being resolved. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. A RtgDir review still needs to take place. None of the other expert reviews mentioned (MIB Doctor, etc.) apply to this document. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? This document does not contain a YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. This document contains no formal language. The shepherd has carefully reviewed this draft, as documented at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/Knm_a-HXt_5i9xlRAnfp7jhLkds/ (**as WG participant**) These comments have been resolved. Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. Do any such issues remain that would merit specific attention from subsequent reviews? Shepherd has not identified any such issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track as indicated on the title page. This document and its companion documents specify a more sophisticated and finer-grained flow control mechanism than the one defined in RFC 8651 (which is a Proposed Standard). Moreover, credit-based flow control is an explicit work item on the WG's charter, whereas Control-Plane-Based Pause (RFC 8651) was not (and was criticized for that reason during IESG review). 12. Has the interested community confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required by BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any discussion and conclusion regarding the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosures, including links to relevant emails. See IPR statements at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/GZPzumdxzHMIGY_zcnT1milVz0w/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/itiAXwQ7dQaerG43rTH6SXNiDdY/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/CPfo7N_BrN2V1_GP8n92l3U3Jzw/ It appears that no IPR is being claimed. 13. Has each Author or Contributor confirmed their willingness to be listed as such? If the number of Authors/Editors on the front page is greater than 5, please provide a justification. Implicitly as per question 12 above. Sadly, David Wiggins passed away in 2023. 14. Identify any remaining I-D nits in this document. (See the idnits tool and the checkbox items found in Guidelines to Authors of Internet-Drafts). Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the entire guidelines document. The document adheres to the naming convention for Internet-Drafts. The document contains all the required sections. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? The shepherd believes the references to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are to RFCs (or RFCs-to-be, in two cases). 17. Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967, BCP 97)? If so, list them. There are no downward normative references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion? This document has normative references to two of its companion documents (see answer to question 1), draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, which are assumed to go through post-WG review and processing steps alongside it. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. This document (together with its companion documents, see answer to question 1) defines an extension to RFC 8175, in the same way as RFC 8629, RFC 8651, RFC 8703 and RFC 8757 do, but it does not change the status of RFC 8175 or any other RFC. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). This document adds one entry to the existing DLEP Extensions Registry named "Extension Type Values". This addition is in the range with a "Specification Required" policy. This document does not create new IANA registries. The requested action in the IANA Considerations Section (section 5) has been found to be consistent with the body of the document. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. This document does not create new IANA registries. WORK IN PROGRESS |
2024-03-04
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15 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-15.txt |
2024-03-04
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15 | Tess Chapeta | Posted submission manually |
2024-01-11
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14 | (System) | Document has expired |
2023-12-20
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14 | Ronald in 't Velt | WORK IN PROGRESS Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, … WORK IN PROGRESS Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This document is part of a cluster of four which together specify a credit-base flow control extension to the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP, RFC8175). The companion documents are: - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. There was strong consensus early on in the WG that it would be beneficial to have a Flow Control extension to DLEP that is more sophisticated than the Control-Plane-based Pause approach specified in RFC 8651. Most of the remaining discussion revolved around how to best structure and modularize the specification. (See answer to question 2). 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There was discussion (rather than controversy) on how the functional elements of credit-based flow control should be distributed over separate documents. Between IETF 100 and IETF 103, the specification went from being contained in a single document to being broken down into four separate ones. Traffic Classification was split off, because it is considered a generic mechanism that can be useful for other purposes than flow control alone. draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was the original monolithic specification, that was reduced to merely defining the Extension Type value after Message and Data Item definitions were moved to draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. Using IEEE 802.1Q fields of Ethernet frames instead of DS fields in IP packets as an alternative way of distinguishing flows made it necessary to define an additional Extension Type value in draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. The motivation for having both Extension Type values in separate documents is to allow implementers of DLEP to specify exactly which extensions they support by means of RFC numbers. The TSV ART reviewer commented that draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was very light on content and strongly suggested to merge this document into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. (At the time, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension had not yet been subjected to TSV ART early review). The WG considered this suggestion around IETF 113 and again at IETF 115, but decided that reasons for the four-way split were still valid and to therefore stick to that structure. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This document's shepherd has no knowledge of existing implementations. Since this document (and its companions) describes an extension to DLEP (RFC 8175), a starting point for an implementation could be the open source DLEP library, to which David Wiggins (one of the authors of this document) is the main contributor: https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-DLEP . There has been some discussion on the mailing list on how to implement the router side of credit-based flow control (in Linux, specifically): https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/MPTLhKgaljq1BRdjE_dEk9x1YhI/ Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. A TSV ART Early Review took place. Main concern was the split in three different documents. (See answer to question 2). Some lesser issue are being resolved. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. A RtgDir review still needs to take place. None of the other expert reviews mentioned (MIB Doctor, etc.) apply to this document. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? This document does not contain a YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. This document contains no formal language. The shepherd has carefully reviewed this draft, as documented at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/Knm_a-HXt_5i9xlRAnfp7jhLkds/ (**as WG participant**) These comments have been resolved. Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. Do any such issues remain that would merit specific attention from subsequent reviews? Shepherd has not identified any such issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track as indicated on the title page. This document and its companion documents specify a more sophisticated and finer-grained flow control mechanism than the one defined in RFC 8651 (which is a Proposed Standard). Moreover, credit-based flow control is an explicit work item on the WG's charter, whereas Control-Plane-Based Pause (RFC 8651) was not (and was criticized for that reason during IESG review). 12. Has the interested community confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required by BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any discussion and conclusion regarding the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosures, including links to relevant emails. See IPR statments at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/GZPzumdxzHMIGY_zcnT1milVz0w/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/itiAXwQ7dQaerG43rTH6SXNiDdY/ (IPR statement by Bow-Nan Cheng is still pending, but his affiliation is the same as that of David Wiggins; it therefore seems unlikely that the former is aware of IPR of which the latter is not aware). It appears that no IPR is being claimed. 13. Has each Author or Contributor confirmed their willingness to be listed as such? If the number of Authors/Editors on the front page is greater than 5, please provide a justification. Implicitly as per question 12 above. 14. Identify any remaining I-D nits in this document. (See the idnits tool and the checkbox items found in Guidelines to Authors of Internet-Drafts). Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the entire guidelines document. The document adheres to the naming convention for Internet-Drafts. The document contains all the required sections. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? The shepherd believes the references to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are to RFCs (or RFCs-to-be, in two cases). 17. Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967, BCP 97)? If so, list them. There are no downward normative references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion? This document has normative references to two of its companion documents (see answer to question 1), draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, which are assumed to go through post-WG review and processing steps alongside it. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. This document (together with its companion documents, see answer to question 1) defines an extension to RFC 8175, in the same way as RFC 8629, RFC 8651, RFC 8703 and RFC 8757 do, but it does not change the status of RFC 8175 or any other RFC. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). This document adds one entry to the existing DLEP Extensions Registry named "Extension Type Values". This addition is in the range with a "Specification Required" policy. This document does not create new IANA registries. The requested action in the IANA Considerations Section (section 5) has been found to be consistent with the body of the document. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. This document does not create new IANA registries. WORK IN PROGRESS |
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14 | Ronald in 't Velt | WORK IN PROGRESS Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, … WORK IN PROGRESS Shepherd writeup on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This document is part of a cluster of four which together specify a credit-base flow control extension to the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP, RFC8175). The companion documents are: - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. There was strong consensus early on in the WG that it would be beneficial to have a Flow Control extension to DLEP that is more sophisticated than the Control-Plane-based Pause approach specified in RFC 8651. Most of the remaining discussion revolved around how to best structure and modularize the specification. (See answer to question 2). 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There was discussion (rather than controversy) on how the functional elements of credit-based flow control should be distributed over separate documents. Between IETF 100 and IETF 103, the specification went from being contained in a single document to being broken down into four separate ones. Traffic Classification was split off, because it is considered a generic mechanism that can be useful for other purposes than flow control alone. draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was the original monolithic specification, that was reduced to merely defining the Extension Type value after Message and Data Item definitions were moved to draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. Using IEEE 802.1Q fields of Ethernet frames instead of DS fields in IP packets as an alternative way of distinguishing flows made it necessary to define an additional Extension Type value in draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension. The motivation for having both Extension Type values in separate documents is to allow implementers of DLEP to specify exactly which extensions they support by means of RFC numbers. The TSV ART reviewer commented that draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension was very light on content and strongly suggested to merge this document into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension. (At the time, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension had not yet been subjected to TSV ART early review). The WG considered this suggestion around IETF 113 and again at IETF 115, but decided that reasons for the four-way split were still valid and to therefore stick to that structure. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This document's shepherd has no knowledge of existing implementations. Since this document (and its companions) describes an extension to DLEP (RFC 8175), a starting point for an implementation could be the open source DLEP library, to which David Wiggins (one of the authors of this document) is the main contributor: https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-DLEP . There has been some discussion on the mailing list on how to implement the router side of credit-based flow control (in Linux, specifically): https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/MPTLhKgaljq1BRdjE_dEk9x1YhI/ Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. A TSV ART Early Review took place. Main concern was the split in three different documents. (See answer to question 2). Some lesser issue are being resolved. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. A RtgDir review still needs to take place. None of the other expert reviews mentioned (MIB Doctor, etc.) apply to this document. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? This document does not contain a YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. This document contains no formal language. The shepherd has carefully reviewed this draft, as documented at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/Knm_a-HXt_5i9xlRAnfp7jhLkds/ (**as WG participant**) These comments have been resolved. Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. Do any such issues remain that would merit specific attention from subsequent reviews? Shepherd has not identified any such issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track as indicated on the title page. This document and its companion documents specify a more sophisticated and finer-grained flow control mechanism than the one defined in RFC 8651 (which is a Proposed Standard). Moreover, credit-based flow control is an explicit work item on the WG's charter, whereas Control-Plane-Based Pause (RFC 8651) was not (and was criticized for that reason during IESG review). 12. Has the interested community confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required by BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any discussion and conclusion regarding the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosures, including links to relevant emails. See IPR statments at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/GZPzumdxzHMIGY_zcnT1milVz0w/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/itiAXwQ7dQaerG43rTH6SXNiDdY/ (IPR statement by Bow-Nan Cheng is still pending, but his affiliation is the same as that of David Wiggins; it therefore seems unlikely that the former is aware of IPR of which the latter is not aware). It appears that no IPR is being claimed. 13. Has each Author or Contributor confirmed their willingness to be listed as such? If the number of Authors/Editors on the front page is greater than 5, please provide a justification. Implicitly as per question 12 above. 14. Identify any remaining I-D nits in this document. (See the idnits tool and the checkbox items found in Guidelines to Authors of Internet-Drafts). Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the entire guidelines document. The document adheres to the naming convention for Internet-Drafts. The document contains all the required sections. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? The shepherd believes the references to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are to RFCs (or RFCs-to-be, in two cases). 17. Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967, BCP 97)? If so, list them. There are no downward normative references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion? This document hasnormative reference to two of its companion documents (see answer to question 1), draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, which are assumed to go through post-WG review and processing steps alongside it. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. This document (together with its companion documents, see answer to question 1) defines an extension to RFC 8175, in the same way as RFC 8629, RFC 8651, RFC 8703 and RFC 8757 do, but it does not change the status of RFC 8175 or any other RFC. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). This document adds one entry to the existing DLEP Extensions Registry named "Extension Type Values". This addition is in the range with a "Specification Required" policy. This document does not create new IANA registries. The requested action in the IANA Considerations Section (section 5) has been found to be consistent with the body of the document. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. This document does not create new IANA registries. WORK IN PROGRESS |
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14 | Ronald in 't Velt | Notification list changed to ronald.intvelt@tno.nl because the document shepherd was set |
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14 | Ronald in 't Velt | Document shepherd changed to Ronald in 't Velt |
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14 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-14.txt |
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14 | Lou Berger | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
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14 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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13 | (System) | Document has expired |
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13 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-13.txt |
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13 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
2022-02-24
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13 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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12 | (System) | Document has expired |
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12 | David Black | Request for Early review by TSVART Completed: On the Right Track. Reviewer: David Black. |
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12 | Don Fedyk | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
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12 | Don Fedyk | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
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12 | Ronald in 't Velt | Under TSV-ART review |
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12 | Ronald in 't Velt | Tag Awaiting Expert Review/Resolution of Issues Raised set. |
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12 | Ronald in 't Velt | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
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12 | Ronald in 't Velt | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
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12 | Ronald in 't Velt | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
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12 | Magnus Westerlund | Request for Early review by TSVART is assigned to David Black |
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12 | Magnus Westerlund | Request for Early review by TSVART is assigned to David Black |
2021-10-26
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12 | Ronald in 't Velt | Requested Early review by TSVART |
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12 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-12.txt |
2021-07-29
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12 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
2021-07-29
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12 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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11 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-11.txt |
2021-06-21
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11 | (System) | New version approved |
2021-06-21
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11 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Bow-Nan Cheng , David Wiggins , Lou Berger , manet-chairs@ietf.org |
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11 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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10 | (System) | Document has expired |
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10 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-10.txt |
2020-12-04
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10 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
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10 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
2020-06-03
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09 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-09.txt |
2020-06-03
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09 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
2020-06-03
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09 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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08 | (System) | Document has expired |
2019-11-19
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08 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-08.txt |
2019-11-19
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08 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Lou Berger) |
2019-11-19
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08 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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07 | (System) | Document has expired |
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07 | Justin Dean | Draft has been stable within the WG for some time. WG agreed to last call at IETF 103. |
2019-03-11
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07 | Justin Dean | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2019-03-06
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07 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-07.txt |
2019-03-06
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07 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-03-06
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: manet-chairs@ietf.org, Lou Berger , David Wiggins , Bow-Nan Cheng |
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07 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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06 | (System) | Document has expired |
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06 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-06.txt |
2018-08-02
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06 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-08-02
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06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: manet-chairs@ietf.org, Lou Berger , David Wiggins , Bow-Nan Cheng |
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06 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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05 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-05.txt |
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05 | (System) | New version approved |
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: manet-chairs@ietf.org, Lou Berger , David Wiggins , Bow-Nan Cheng |
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05 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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04 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-04.txt |
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04 | (System) | New version approved |
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: manet-chairs@ietf.org, Lou Berger , David Wiggins , Bow-Nan Cheng |
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04 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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03 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-03.txt |
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03 | (System) | New version approved |
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: manet-chairs@ietf.org, Lou Berger , David Wiggins , Bow-Nan Cheng |
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03 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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02 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-02.txt |
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: manet-chairs@ietf.org, Lou Berger , David Wiggins , Bow-Nan Cheng |
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02 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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01 | (System) | Document has expired |
2017-03-13
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01 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01.txt |
2017-03-13
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01 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-03-13
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Bow-Nan Cheng , Lou Berger , David Wiggins , manet-chairs@ietf.org |
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01 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |
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00 | Lou Berger | New version available: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-00.txt |
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00 | (System) | WG -00 approved |
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00 | Lou Berger | Set submitter to "Lou Berger ", replaces to (none) and sent approval email to group chairs: manet-chairs@ietf.org |
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00 | Lou Berger | Uploaded new revision |