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The Alternative Network Address Types (ANAT) Semantics for the Session Description Protocol (SDP) Grouping Framework
draft-ietf-mmusic-anat-02

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Date Rev. By Action
2012-08-22
02 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Scott Hollenbeck
2012-08-22
02 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Margaret Wasserman
2012-08-22
02 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Ted Hardie
2004-12-23
02 Amy Vezza State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza
2004-12-21
02 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2004-12-21
02 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2004-12-21
02 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2004-11-29
02 Amy Vezza State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza
2004-11-24
02 Margaret Cullen [Ballot Position Update] Position for Margaret Wasserman has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Margaret Wasserman
2004-11-05
02 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Hardie has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Ted Hardie
2004-10-27
02 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed
2004-10-27
02 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-anat-02.txt
2004-08-26
02 Allison Mankin State Change Notice email list have been change to csp@csperkins.org, gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com,mankin@psg.com from
2004-07-23
02 Amy Vezza [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alex Zinin by Amy Vezza
2004-07-23
02 Amy Vezza State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza
2004-07-23
02 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2004-07-22
2004-07-22
02 Allison Mankin [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Allison Mankin by Allison Mankin
2004-07-22
02 Bert Wijnen [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Bert Wijnen by Bert Wijnen
2004-07-22
02 Scott Hollenbeck [Ballot Position Update] Position for Scott Hollenbeck has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-07-21
02 Bill Fenner [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Bill Fenner by Bill Fenner
2004-07-21
02 David Kessens [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens
2004-07-21
02 Amy Vezza State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Amy Vezza
2004-07-21
02 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] Position for Russ Housley has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Russ Housley
2004-07-21
02 Russ Housley [Ballot comment]
Spell out first use of "ICE."
2004-07-21
02 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley
2004-07-20
02 (System) State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system
2004-07-20
02 Harald Alvestrand [Ballot comment]
Reviewed by Scott Brim, Gen-ART
2004-07-20
02 Harald Alvestrand [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Harald Alvestrand by Harald Alvestrand
2004-07-19
02 Margaret Cullen
[Ballot discuss]
This document should use the IPv6 documentation prefix in the example:  2001:DB8::/32.  The document that defines this prefix is already in the RFC …
[Ballot discuss]
This document should use the IPv6 documentation prefix in the example:  2001:DB8::/32.  The document that defines this prefix is already in the RFC Editors queue for publication.  There is probably a similar address that should be used for IPv4 examples, but I can seem to find it.

Is it expected that IPv6 addresses could include zone IDs of the format described in the IPv6 scoped address architecture (
%)?
2004-07-19
02 Steven Bellovin [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Steve Bellovin by Steve Bellovin
2004-07-19
02 Ted Hardie
[Ballot discuss]
I apologize for entering this as a discuss comment, rather than responding to the last call; I started
to write this up for …
[Ballot discuss]
I apologize for entering this as a discuss comment, rather than responding to the last call; I started
to write this up for the last call, and I got overcome by events.  I really, really don't want to do
this now, as it is a classic late surprise, but I feel I have to put this forward.  If there is strong push
back, I will move to an abstain, but I *would* like to discuss it.

This document seems to be starting from the wrong place, and I believe it ends up in the wrong place as a result. It seems to intends to allow something useful (a dual-stack v4/v6 node to
advertise addresses in both families), but it is missing the point that address families in and
of themselves aren't sufficient to describe address types.  Addresses may have scopes; addresses may be associated with specific places in network topologies; addresses may be  connected to interfaces which may have vastly different capabilities.  On one level, this draft seems to recognize this; Section 5.1, for example, seems to recognize that specific addresses may be mapped to different interfaces with different characteristics.  But text like this:

  The ANAT semantics are intended to address scenarios that involve
  different network address types (e.g., different IP versions). They
  are not intended to provide alternative transport addresses with the
  same network type.

seems to indicate that one interface's link-local IPv6 address and a different
interface's globally unique IPv6 address would be the same type.  It seems
to further imply, but not quite state outright that v4 and v6 addresses
are the only "address types".  This needs to get said flat-out at some point
one way or the other.  And somehow this document needs to motivate the
limitation, because it seems arbitrary now (or related to a fear of overlap
with ICE, which seems like it could be dealt with in other ways).

For the readers in the IESG, this argument goes back to the message "A Crazy Idea of No Merit"
I sent out earlier, in which I argued that we were in fact using fairly complex routing
tuples, but were inferring the elements of the typical row in ways that hid that
fact.  Nothing in this document prohibits this being used for multiple interfaces,
and that means that lots of the elements in those tuples may vary--and the apparent
limitation in this document to "one per address family" doesn't cover the ground
appropriately in my opinion.
2004-07-19
02 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie
2004-07-17
02 Margaret Cullen
[Ballot discuss]
This document should use the IPv6 documentation prefix in the example:  2001:DB8::/32.  The document that defines this prefix is already in the RFC …
[Ballot discuss]
This document should use the IPv6 documentation prefix in the example:  2001:DB8::/32.  The document that defines this prefix is already in the RFC Editors queue for publication.  There is probably a similar address that should be used for IPv4 examples, but I can seem to find it.
2004-07-17
02 Margaret Cullen [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Margaret Wasserman by Margaret Wasserman
2004-07-16
02 Scott Hollenbeck
[Ballot discuss]
It looks like either the text or the example in section 4 is broken.  The text says "In the example below, the m= …
[Ballot discuss]
It looks like either the text or the example in section 4 is broken.  The text says "In the example below, the m= line with mid=1 has a higher preference than the m line with mid=2", but the example given is "a=group:ANAT 1 2".
2004-07-16
02 Scott Hollenbeck [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Scott Hollenbeck by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-07-16
02 Michelle Cotton IANA Last Call Comments:
Upon approval of this document the IANA will register a new
semantics attribute "Alternative Network Address Types".
2004-07-15
02 Jon Peterson Placed on agenda for telechat - 2004-07-22 by Jon Peterson
2004-07-15
02 Jon Peterson [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Jon Peterson
2004-07-15
02 Jon Peterson Ballot has been issued by Jon Peterson
2004-07-15
02 Jon Peterson Created "Approve" ballot
2004-07-06
02 Amy Vezza Last call sent
2004-07-06
02 Amy Vezza State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza
2004-07-05
02 Jon Peterson Last Call was requested by Jon Peterson
2004-07-05
02 Jon Peterson State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation by Jon Peterson
2004-07-05
02 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2004-07-05
02 (System) Last call text was added
2004-07-05
02 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2004-07-05
02 Jon Peterson State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Jon Peterson
2004-07-05
02 Jon Peterson State Changes to Publication Requested from Publication Requested::AD Followup by Jon Peterson
2004-07-05
02 Jon Peterson Note field has been cleared by Jon Peterson
2004-06-04
01 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-anat-01.txt
2004-04-21
02 Jon Peterson State Changes to Publication Requested::AD Followup from Publication Requested by Jon Peterson
2004-04-21
02 Jon Peterson
[Note]: 'This document defines a SIP option tag, and accordingly, per RFC3427 Section 2.1, it must be processed by the SIP WG.' added by Jon …
[Note]: 'This document defines a SIP option tag, and accordingly, per RFC3427 Section 2.1, it must be processed by the SIP WG.' added by Jon Peterson
2004-03-15
02 Dinara Suleymanova Draft Added by Dinara Suleymanova
2003-12-15
00 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-anat-00.txt