MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Next-Hop Ethernet Addressing
draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-08
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2014-06-16
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48 |
2014-04-30
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08 | Loa Andersson | (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the … (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? The MPLS working group request that: MPLS-TP Next-Hop Ethernet Addressing draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-04 is published as an RFC on the standards track. This is a standard track document because it is a protocol specification. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary: This document presents considerations for link-layer addressing of Ethernet frames carrying MPLS-TP packets. The Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) is the set of MPLS protocol functions applicable to the construction and operation of packet-switched transport networks. Working Group Summary: Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There is good support in the working group for this draft. There were no significant controversies in progression of the document. Last call comments were constructive technical comments and the document has been updated accordingly. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? We know of intentions to implement this protocol. Since is carried over the "MPLS G-ACh Advertisement Protocol", most implementers are in waiting mode for the assignemnt of the ACh type for that protocol. Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Loa Andersson is the document shepherd. Who is the Responsible Area Director? Adrian Farrel is the responsible AD. (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. The document shepherd reviewed the document at the point in time when it was being polled to become a working group document and again as a part of the preparation for the working group last call. The draft has also been reviewed a number of times (partially or the entire draft) after the working group last call was completed. The IANA section has been reviewed several times. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No such concerns, the document has been thorugh working group last call and comments has been solicited from SG15 in the ITU-T.. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. The document shepherd believes that the current level of review is sufficient. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. No such concerns. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? A poll for IPRs has been done among the authors and in the working group. All the authors has confirmed that they are not aware of any existing IPR claims. There are no IPT´R claims against this document. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No IPR disclosures have been submitted directly on this draft. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There are good support for this document! (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No such threats! (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. This document passes the ID-nits tool clean. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such formal review requirements! (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? With the exception of "draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv" all normative references are RFCs. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. There is a downward references to RFC 2469 "A Caution On The Canonical Ordering Of Link-Layer Addresses". (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. This document does not change the status of any other document. (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). This document has a clear and well-written IANA section. Note: In section 6.2 this document requests that a code point is allocated for allocate a new Application ID in the "G-ACh Advertisement Protocol Applications" registry [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] (currently located in the "Pseudowire Name Spaces (PWE3)"). Strictly this registry is in the process of being set up; the MPLS working group has requested publication of [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv]. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. This document creates one new IANA registry, the allocation policiy is "IETF Review". (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No such review required. |
2014-04-11
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR |
2014-03-12
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT |
2014-01-21
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT from MISSREF |
2013-09-07
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08 | Loa Andersson | Document shepherd changed to Loa Andersson |
2013-07-31
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2013-07-30
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
2013-07-30
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2013-07-29
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08 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2013-07-29
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to MISSREF |
2013-07-29
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08 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2013-07-29
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2013-07-29
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2013-07-27
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08 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2013-07-27
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08 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2013-07-27
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08 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2013-07-27
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08 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2013-07-27
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08 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
2013-07-27
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08 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot writeup was changed |
2013-07-27
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08 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot approval text was generated |
2013-07-26
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08 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2013-07-26
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08 | Cindy Morgan | New revision available |
2013-04-28
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07 | Adrian Farrel | Authors will spin a new revision to address the Comments from IESG review |
2013-04-28
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07 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Revised I-D Needed from Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed |
2013-04-25
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07 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation |
2013-04-24
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07 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon |
2013-04-24
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07 | Richard Barnes | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Richard Barnes |
2013-04-24
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07 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot comment] No objection to the publication of this document, but please address the two points below. Note: I discussed those points with Stewart, and … [Ballot comment] No objection to the publication of this document, but please address the two points below. Note: I discussed those points with Stewart, and we agreed that the text needs to be improved. 1. There are 2 SHOULD in the following paragraphs: ... If existing mechanisms are available in an MPLS-TP network to determine the destination unicast MAC addresses of peer nodes -- for example, if the network also happens to be an IP/MPLS network, or if Link Layer Discovery Protocol (LLDP) [LLDP] is in use, or if it implements the procedures in Section 4 of this document -- such mechanisms SHOULD be used. The remainder of this section discusses the available options when this is not the case. ... In view of the above considerations, the approach which SHOULD be used, is therefore to configure both nodes to use the method described in this document which uses, as a destination MAC address, an Ethernet multicast address reserved for MPLS-TP for use over point-to-point links. If I have ARP or LLDP, the first SHOULD apply. However, there is also a SHOULD for the new mechanism in this document. So which method should I use as a default? Discussing with Stewart, the authors should make it clear that 1. If ARP/LLDP is/are available, they are the preferred methods 2. If ARP/LLDP is/are not available, rather than using the hand configured unicast or the broadcast address mechanisms, use the 01-00-5E-90-00-00 mechanism 2. Manageability Considerations Because this mechanism proposed in this document relies on point-to-point interfaces only, you're missing that the interface type, whether point-to-point or multi-point, must be clearly labeled, and this information must be available to the network operator. Any changes of interface type must be notified to the network operator. See my next email to the OPS-DIR on this topic. |
2013-04-24
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07 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise |
2013-04-23
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] (Updated to a comment, based on feedback.) A new Gen-ART review recently arrived on this document. Can the authors, shepherds, or sponsoring ADs … [Ballot comment] (Updated to a comment, based on feedback.) A new Gen-ART review recently arrived on this document. Can the authors, shepherds, or sponsoring ADs take a look and see if there is something that you think should be addressed? The review is at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/gen-art/current/msg08439.html and also copied below. Also, regarding the S7.3 comment, we do often use IANA policies of the form " or IESG Approval", because it allows an IESG approval for the eventual special case. I would consider this model for this document as well. ------- Martin Thomson's Gen-ART review: Summary: This document is almost ready for publication as proposed standard. There are some minor issues Major issues: None Minor issues: The structure of the document is odd. The individual pieces of explanation are good, it's just that different bits are revealed in a strange order. If the intent is to describe a method of selecting an Ethernet address to attach to MPLS-TP packets, I would have thought that structuring the document to correspond to the prioritization of methods would make sense. That is, from what I can infer: If unicast, use a unicast address (MUST for multipoint attachment, SHOULD for others) 1. from G-ACh, if available 2. from static configuration, if operationally feasible otherwise, for point-to-point links you can use 3. the IANA-assigned special address 4. FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF Reordering might help with understanding the process. If multicast/broadcast LSPs, there doesn't seem to be any actual recommendations or advice in the document. There is only an admonition to use encapsulation, which is probably necessary for other reasons anyhow. So it's not clear how Section 3, paragraph 1 is relevant to this document. It doesn't offer any guidance on how one might select an appropriate Ethernet address for those frames. Presumably these could be unicast, multicast or broadcast depending on routing requirements for the LSP, in which case maybe there is no good advice to give. If there really is no good advice to give, or there is no intent to provide advice for multicast/broadcast LSPs, a statement to that effect would be helpful. Section 3, Paragraph 2 just reiterates parts of Section 2, it could be removed. S5: I can't reconcile "The advertised information SHOULD be persistent across restarts." with "Received advertisements MUST be discarded across restarts." S4, pp5: Why force a mapping to EUI-64? Is canonicalization important for some reason? S4, pp5: The paragraph beginning with "In the event a GAP message is not received within the previously received associated Lifetime, ..." is a little confusing (and I'm familiar with G-ACh already). This could be clearer. Maybe: "A node could cease transmission of G-ACh advertisements, or cease to include a Source MAC Address TLV in advertisements, either of which cause the TLV lifetime to elapse. After the Source MAC Address TLV lifetime has elapsed, this value SHOULD no longer be used to select a MAC address; the node SHOULD return to selecting MAC addresses as though no advertisements were received." S7.3: IETF review is a pretty high bar. (Sadly, I missed this on G-ACh, or I would have made the same comment.) Did you consider allowing IESG Approval as an alternative? Nits/editorial comments: There are a couple of lowercase instances of RFC2119 keywords that could be confusing. The very last line of S4, the second last sentence of S2. Consider alternative wordings for these statements. S2, pp3: s/i.e. /i.e., / |
2013-04-23
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07 | Jari Arkko | Ballot comment text updated for Jari Arkko |
2013-04-23
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] (Updated to a comment, based on feedback.) A new Gen-ART review recently arrived on this document. Can the authors, shepherds, or sponsoring ADs … [Ballot comment] (Updated to a comment, based on feedback.) A new Gen-ART review recently arrived on this document. Can the authors, shepherds, or sponsoring ADs take a look and see if there is something that you think should be addressed? Martin Thomson's Gen-ART review: Summary: This document is almost ready for publication as proposed standard. There are some minor issues Major issues: None Minor issues: The structure of the document is odd. The individual pieces of explanation are good, it's just that different bits are revealed in a strange order. If the intent is to describe a method of selecting an Ethernet address to attach to MPLS-TP packets, I would have thought that structuring the document to correspond to the prioritization of methods would make sense. That is, from what I can infer: If unicast, use a unicast address (MUST for multipoint attachment, SHOULD for others) 1. from G-ACh, if available 2. from static configuration, if operationally feasible otherwise, for point-to-point links you can use 3. the IANA-assigned special address 4. FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF Reordering might help with understanding the process. If multicast/broadcast LSPs, there doesn't seem to be any actual recommendations or advice in the document. There is only an admonition to use encapsulation, which is probably necessary for other reasons anyhow. So it's not clear how Section 3, paragraph 1 is relevant to this document. It doesn't offer any guidance on how one might select an appropriate Ethernet address for those frames. Presumably these could be unicast, multicast or broadcast depending on routing requirements for the LSP, in which case maybe there is no good advice to give. If there really is no good advice to give, or there is no intent to provide advice for multicast/broadcast LSPs, a statement to that effect would be helpful. Section 3, Paragraph 2 just reiterates parts of Section 2, it could be removed. S5: I can't reconcile "The advertised information SHOULD be persistent across restarts." with "Received advertisements MUST be discarded across restarts." S4, pp5: Why force a mapping to EUI-64? Is canonicalization important for some reason? S4, pp5: The paragraph beginning with "In the event a GAP message is not received within the previously received associated Lifetime, ..." is a little confusing (and I'm familiar with G-ACh already). This could be clearer. Maybe: "A node could cease transmission of G-ACh advertisements, or cease to include a Source MAC Address TLV in advertisements, either of which cause the TLV lifetime to elapse. After the Source MAC Address TLV lifetime has elapsed, this value SHOULD no longer be used to select a MAC address; the node SHOULD return to selecting MAC addresses as though no advertisements were received." S7.3: IETF review is a pretty high bar. (Sadly, I missed this on G-ACh, or I would have made the same comment.) Did you consider allowing IESG Approval as an alternative? Nits/editorial comments: There are a couple of lowercase instances of RFC2119 keywords that could be confusing. The very last line of S4, the second last sentence of S2. Consider alternative wordings for these statements. S2, pp3: s/i.e. /i.e., / |
2013-04-23
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Jari Arkko has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2013-04-23
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot discuss] A new Gen-ART review recently arrived on this document. Can the authors, shepherds, or sponsoring ADs take a look and see if there … [Ballot discuss] A new Gen-ART review recently arrived on this document. Can the authors, shepherds, or sponsoring ADs take a look and see if there is something that you think should be addressed? |
2013-04-23
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] Martin Thomson's Gen-ART review: Summary: This document is almost ready for publication as proposed standard. There are some minor issues Major issues: None … [Ballot comment] Martin Thomson's Gen-ART review: Summary: This document is almost ready for publication as proposed standard. There are some minor issues Major issues: None Minor issues: The structure of the document is odd. The individual pieces of explanation are good, it's just that different bits are revealed in a strange order. If the intent is to describe a method of selecting an Ethernet address to attach to MPLS-TP packets, I would have thought that structuring the document to correspond to the prioritization of methods would make sense. That is, from what I can infer: If unicast, use a unicast address (MUST for multipoint attachment, SHOULD for others) 1. from G-ACh, if available 2. from static configuration, if operationally feasible otherwise, for point-to-point links you can use 3. the IANA-assigned special address 4. FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF Reordering might help with understanding the process. If multicast/broadcast LSPs, there doesn't seem to be any actual recommendations or advice in the document. There is only an admonition to use encapsulation, which is probably necessary for other reasons anyhow. So it's not clear how Section 3, paragraph 1 is relevant to this document. It doesn't offer any guidance on how one might select an appropriate Ethernet address for those frames. Presumably these could be unicast, multicast or broadcast depending on routing requirements for the LSP, in which case maybe there is no good advice to give. If there really is no good advice to give, or there is no intent to provide advice for multicast/broadcast LSPs, a statement to that effect would be helpful. Section 3, Paragraph 2 just reiterates parts of Section 2, it could be removed. S5: I can't reconcile "The advertised information SHOULD be persistent across restarts." with "Received advertisements MUST be discarded across restarts." S4, pp5: Why force a mapping to EUI-64? Is canonicalization important for some reason? S4, pp5: The paragraph beginning with "In the event a GAP message is not received within the previously received associated Lifetime, ..." is a little confusing (and I'm familiar with G-ACh already). This could be clearer. Maybe: "A node could cease transmission of G-ACh advertisements, or cease to include a Source MAC Address TLV in advertisements, either of which cause the TLV lifetime to elapse. After the Source MAC Address TLV lifetime has elapsed, this value SHOULD no longer be used to select a MAC address; the node SHOULD return to selecting MAC addresses as though no advertisements were received." S7.3: IETF review is a pretty high bar. (Sadly, I missed this on G-ACh, or I would have made the same comment.) Did you consider allowing IESG Approval as an alternative? Nits/editorial comments: There are a couple of lowercase instances of RFC2119 keywords that could be confusing. The very last line of S4, the second last sentence of S2. Consider alternative wordings for these statements. S2, pp3: s/i.e. /i.e., / |
2013-04-23
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2013-04-23
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07 | Sean Turner | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sean Turner |
2013-04-22
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07 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot comment] "You might want to review your RFC 2119 usage before passing this to the RFC Editor." |
2013-04-22
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07 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Pete Resnick |
2013-04-22
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07 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot comment] I would observe that you should never use garp or ndp messages for 01-00-5E-90-00-00 to update an L2 next hop which gets back … [Ballot comment] I would observe that you should never use garp or ndp messages for 01-00-5E-90-00-00 to update an L2 next hop which gets back to the question of what is or isn't point to point. I don't know that, that observation needs to make it into the text so no objection. |
2013-04-22
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07 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli |
2013-04-22
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07 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] - section 2, 2nd last para on p3: I'm not clear whether an implementation MUST process frames sent to 01-00-5e-90-00-00 if the implementation … [Ballot comment] - section 2, 2nd last para on p3: I'm not clear whether an implementation MUST process frames sent to 01-00-5e-90-00-00 if the implementation doesn't know that the link is point-to-point or knows that the link is not point-to-point. You could also maybe be clearer about what "MUST process" means, not sure if that's obvious or not (maybe it is), but if I send a huge chunk of garbage bytes to that MAC address, would all be well? Maybe such fuzzing would also be worth a security consideration? (Not sure, maybe that's covered elsewhere or ought be covered elsewhere.) - section 4, is "maximum frame size octets" a typo? Maybe "in octets" was meant? - section 4, MFS == 2^32-1 seems very big. Is there a potential DoS vector there? Maybe a bad node could set this huge to try get the peer to buffer too much stuff or something? Ought implementatations also have their own max-max value or generate an alert or something if a too-big MFS is received? You already mention a too-small MFS in the security considerations, so maybe this is also worth a mention? - section 6: I'm not sure of the real use-cases for this, but are there cases where you really really ought to be turning on the authentication defined in mpls-gach-adv? If there are, wouldn't it be good to describe those a bit and say that they do really need to use the crypto stuff? |
2013-04-22
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07 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2013-04-22
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07 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling |
2013-04-19
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07 | Martin Thomson | Request for Telechat review by GENART Completed: Ready with Issues. Reviewer: Martin Thomson. |
2013-04-18
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07 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-04-18
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07 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-04-17
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07 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2013-04-15
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07 | Brian Haberman | [Ballot comment] Just a couple of editorial nit-picks... 1. I don't think I have ever heard of "Ethernet Address Resolution Protocol (ARP)". Since ARP works … [Ballot comment] Just a couple of editorial nit-picks... 1. I don't think I have ever heard of "Ethernet Address Resolution Protocol (ARP)". Since ARP works on links other than Ethernet, I would suggest dropping reference to Ethernet. This standardizes the description of ARP in the same way NDP is described. 2. The references [EUI-64] and [LLDP] have all sorts of extraneous punctuation that can be cleaned up. |
2013-04-15
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07 | Brian Haberman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman |
2013-04-09
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07 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2013-04-09
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07 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Recuse, has been recorded for Stewart Bryant |
2013-04-09
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07 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot has been issued |
2013-04-09
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel |
2013-04-09
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07 | Adrian Farrel | Created "Approve" ballot |
2013-04-09
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07 | Adrian Farrel | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2013-04-25 |
2013-04-09
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07 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup |
2013-04-08
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07 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2013-04-08
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07 | Stewart Bryant | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-07.txt |
2013-04-08
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06 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised I-D Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup |
2013-04-08
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06 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2013-04-08
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06 | Stewart Bryant | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-06.txt |
2013-03-03
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05 | Adrian Farrel | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2013-02-19
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05 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised ID Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2013-02-18
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05 | (System) | State changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2013-02-14
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Richard Barnes |
2013-02-14
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Richard Barnes |
2013-02-14
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Closed request for Last Call review by GENART with state 'Withdrawn' |
2013-02-14
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05 | Pearl Liang | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-05. Authors should review the comments and/or questions below. Please report any inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-05. Authors should review the comments and/or questions below. Please report any inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon as possible. We understand that, upon approval of this document, there are three actions which we must complete. First, in the IANA Multicast 48-bit MAC Address subregistry of the Ethernet Numbers registry located at: www.iana.org/assignments/ethernet-numbers/ethernet-numbers.xml the address 90-00-00 is currently pre-assigned to MPLS-TP p2p. Upon approval of this document, we will change the reference for this registration to [ RFC-to-be ]. Second, we understand that the current document requests a registration in a registry yet to be created. This registration is to be in a future registry proposed to be created by [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv]. We further understand that when [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] is approved, the current document requests a new registration in the "G-ACh Advertisement Protocol Applications" registry as follows: Application ID Description Reference --------------------------- ---------------------------- --------------- TBD to be assigned by IANA Ethernet Interface [ RFC-to-be ] Parameters Third, we understand that a new registry is to be created called the "G-ACh Advertisement Protocol: Ethernet Interface Parameters" within the "Pseudowire Name Spaces (PWE3)" registry. The range of the Type ID field is 0 - 255. Maintenance for this new subregistry is to be through IETF Review as documented in RFC 5266. There are initial registrations in the new registry, as follows: Type Name Type ID Reference ------------------ ------- -------------- Source MAC Address 0 [ RFC-to-be ] MTU 1 [ RFC-to-be ] We understand that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is only to confirm what actions will be performed. |
2013-02-14
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Tobias Gondrom. |
2013-02-08
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Alexey Melnikov |
2013-02-08
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Alexey Melnikov |
2013-02-07
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Tobias Gondrom |
2013-02-07
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Tobias Gondrom |
2013-02-04
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05 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Last Call: (MPLS-TP Next-Hop Ethernet Addressing) to Proposed … The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Last Call: (MPLS-TP Next-Hop Ethernet Addressing) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG (mpls) to consider the following document: - 'MPLS-TP Next-Hop Ethernet Addressing' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-02-18. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) is the set of MPLS protocol functions applicable to the construction and operation of packet-switched transport networks. This document presents considerations for link-layer addressing of Ethernet frames carrying MPLS-TP packets. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. This document contains a downward reference to RFC 2469 "A Caution On The Canonical Ordering Of Link-Layer Addresses". |
2013-02-04
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05 | Amy Vezza | State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2013-02-04
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05 | Amy Vezza | Last call announcement was changed |
2013-02-02
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05 | Adrian Farrel | Last call was requested |
2013-02-02
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05 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot approval text was generated |
2013-02-02
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05 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2013-02-02
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05 | Adrian Farrel | Last call announcement was changed |
2013-02-02
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05 | Adrian Farrel | Last call announcement was generated |
2013-02-01
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2013-02-01
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05 | Stewart Bryant | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-05.txt |
2013-01-11
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04 | Adrian Farrel | AD review ========= Hi, I have conducted my usual AD review of your document as part of the publication request processing. The aim of my … AD review ========= Hi, I have conducted my usual AD review of your document as part of the publication request processing. The aim of my review is to catch any issues that might show up in IETF last call, directorate reviews, or IESG evaluation. The intent is to resolve the issues by text changes or through email discussion to smooth the passage of the document through the later stages of the process. I have reviewed this document jointly with draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv and since the author team is the same for the two documents, I recommend that you process the comments for the two documents at the same time. As usual, all my comments are open for disagreement and discussion. I think that you will probably want to produce a revision of this document to address my comments, so I have put it into "Revised I-D Needed" state in the data tracker. Thanks for the work, Adrian === The abbreviations GAL and OAM are not used in the document and can be removed from Section 1.1. --- Am I missing something? Why do you only support 48-bit MAC addresses? --- I am *really* surprised that this document does not mention LLDP. In [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] you state... Where it is anticipated that the sole purpose of the GAP will be to provide Ethernet MAC address learning, the use of LLDP SHOULD be considered. So this document needs to say the same thing (all over and in 18pt red bold). Furthermore, it needs to define what "HOULD" means in this context. --- In Section 4... Could you please identify (with TBD1 - to be assigned by IANA) the application ID of the new "Ethernet Interface Parameters" application. Could you please state: "The format of the TLVs is as defined in [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv]. Could you please include the type values for the two TLVs you are defining (so that people don't have to look ahead to the IANA section). Since the two TLVs you are defining have predictable lengths, it would be nice if you included the specific length values to be used. --- I think section 4 is missing something. It is clear from [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] that at least one TLV must be present in the Ethernet Interface Parameters" ADB element. Is there a requirement that the Source MAC Address TLV is always present? What are the rules for multiple occurrences of either of the TLVs you have defined? --- Somewhere, probably Section 4, should leverage the stated intention in [ID.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] by stating that the values received in the new ADB element SHOULD (or probably MUST) be made accessible for inspection by network operators, and where local configuration is updated by the received information, it MUST be clear why the configured value has been changed. Furthermore, you probably need to discuss whether information learned in this way is allowed to be persistent across node or interface discontinuities. (The last point suggests to me that you might want to include a brief section on handling changes in adjacent MAC addresses - a point that you have given as a motivation for the work.) --- In my comments on [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] I ask about the consequences of message loss. This issue seems to apply to this document so, depending on how you handle the issue in [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] you may need to add something to this document. --- Section 5 should reference [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] for the security properties of the GAP. It should probably note that an effective attack is modifying the Source MAC Address value, while modifying the MTU value may also have significant consequences. Furthermore, it may be the case that visibility into the contents of either of the TLVs could provide information that is useful for an attacker. --- In section 6.1, please include an IANA action to update the reference for the MAC address to point to the RFC number assigned to this document on publication. --- In section 6.2, could you please replace 0x0001 with TBD1. --- Trivial point, but there are precisely three authors, all marked as editors. You could safely dispense with the "editor" designation (on the front page and in the Authors' Addresses section). |
2013-01-11
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04 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation |
2013-01-11
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04 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot writeup was changed |
2013-01-11
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04 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot writeup was generated |
2013-01-11
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04 | Adrian Farrel | State changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2013-01-02
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04 | Cindy Morgan | (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the … (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? The MPLS working group request that: MPLS-TP Next-Hop Ethernet Addressing draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-04 is published as an RFC on the standards track. This is a standard track document because it is a protocol specification. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary: This document presents considerations for link-layer addressing of Ethernet frames carrying MPLS-TP packets. The Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) is the set of MPLS protocol functions applicable to the construction and operation of packet-switched transport networks. Working Group Summary: Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There is good support in the working group for this draft. There were no significant controversies in progression of the document. Last call comments were constructive technical comments and the document has been updated accordingly. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? We know of intentions to implement this protocol. Since is carried over the "MPLS G-ACh Advertisement Protocol", most implementers are in waiting mode for the assignemnt of the ACh type for that protocol. Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Loa Andersson is the document shepherd. Who is the Responsible Area Director? Adrian Farrel is the responsible AD. (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. The document shepherd reviewed the document at the point in time when it was being polled to become a working group document and again as a part of the preparation for the working group last call. The draft has also been reviewed a number of times (partially or the entire draft) after the working group last call was completed. The IANA section has been reviewed several times. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No such concerns, the document has been thorugh working group last call and comments has been solicited from SG15 in the ITU-T.. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. The document shepherd believes that the current level of review is sufficient. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. No such concerns. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? A poll for IPRs has been done among the authors and in the working group. All the authors has confirmed that they are not aware of any existing IPR claims. There are no IPT?R claims against this document. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No IPR disclosures have been submitted directly on this draft. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There are good support for this document! (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No such threats! (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. This document passes the ID-nits tool clean. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such formal review requirements! (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? With the exception of "draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv" all normative references are RFCs. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. There is a downward references to RFC 2469 "A Caution On The Canonical Ordering Of Link-Layer Addresses". (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. This document does not change the status of any other document. (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). This document has a clear and well-written IANA section. Note: In section 6.2 this document requests that a code point is allocated for allocate a new Application ID in the "G-ACh Advertisement Protocol Applications" registry [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv] (currently located in the "Pseudowire Name Spaces (PWE3)"). Strictly this registry is in the process of being set up; the MPLS working group has requested publication of [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv]. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. This document creates one new IANA registry, the allocation policiy is "IETF Review". (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No such review required. |
2013-01-02
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04 | Cindy Morgan | Note added 'Loa Andersson (loa@pi.nu) is the document shepherd.' |
2013-01-02
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04 | Cindy Morgan | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard |
2013-01-02
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04 | Cindy Morgan | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2013-01-02
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04 | (System) | Earlier history may be found in the Comment Log for draft-fbb-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing |
2012-12-06
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04 | Stewart Bryant | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-04.txt |
2012-12-06
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03 | Stewart Bryant | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-03.txt |
2012-11-22
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02 | Stewart Bryant | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-02.txt |
2012-05-23
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01 | Dan Frost | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-01.txt |
2012-01-27
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-00.txt |