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Minutes IETF117: mops: Tue 20:00
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Meeting Minutes Media OPerationS (mops) WG
Date and time 2023-07-25 20:00
Title Minutes IETF117: mops: Tue 20:00
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MOPS IETF 117 San Francisco Agenda

13:00 PDT, Tuesday 2023-Jul-25

Admin [5 min]

  • Note well
  • Minute taker -- thank you, Lenny Giuliano
  • Agenda bash

Working Group Documents [50 min]

Media Operations Use Case for an Extended Reality Application on Edge Computing Infrastructure (Renan Krishna) [20 min]

  • update of draft
  • request for WGLC

    • already in WGLC, request for shepherd
  • no question/comments

  • no volunteers for IESG shepherding

TreeDN: Tree-based CDNs for Live Streaming to Mass Audiences (Lenny Giuliano) [30 min]

  • update of draft, including overview of motivation and scale of
    challenge
  • comparison and contrast between TreeDN and traditional unicast CDNs
  • Éric Vyncke -- is there a proof of concept system?

  • Kyle Rose -- this is great; previous review comments were from a
    particular lens of a project at the time. Looking at it fresh, now,
    there's a lot here that's really promising. Even if content
    providers have some reservations about things like performance and
    reliability, this is at a bare minimum a demonstration of the
    viability of multicast for global interdomain delivery of live video
    content.

  • Kyle -- considers this almost ready for WGLC. Will put out an
    updated review from the perspective of a participant
  • Lenny -- happy for more review of the transport section (not his or
    his co-authors' area of expertise)
  • Tianji Jiang -- interested in last mile of subscribers. One concert
    last year in China was 100M subscribers. MSRv6 Bof.

Industry News/Experiences [15 min]

Updates from SVTA (Glenn Deen) [15 min]

  • SVGA == like NANOG for video

  • work on multicast, open caching, multi-can delivery, quic, dns

  • test environments
  • STVA meeting in Prague 3 days before IETF118

    • collaboration events, plans for video meeting on Sunday
    • plan travel to get to IETF early and participate in SVTA stuff
    • check dates, posted
  • Eric- will try to get MOPS and QUIC-related WGs on Mon/Tues

  • WillL- what is status of legal issues for IPR
    • Glenn- under review by legal teams, should be resolved soon

AoB [5min]

  • Sanjay- Akamai and SVTA legal issues?

    • WillL- under review
  • Chris Lemmons -- expresses potential willingness as doc shepherd
    candidate for the AR document