Minutes interim-2019-lpwan-10: Wed 16:00
minutes-interim-2019-lpwan-10-201906261600-00

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Minute takers
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* Alexander
* Carles
* Ana
* Pascal

Blue Sheet
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* Laurent Toutain
* Pascal Thubert
* Ana Minaburo
* Diego Dujovne
* Carles Gomez
* Alexander Pelov
* Ivaylo Petrov
* Juan Carlos Zuniga

Past Attendees
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* Edgard Ramos
* Carsten Bormann
* Julien Catalano
* Alexander Pelov
* Ana Minaburo
* Arunprabhu Kandasamy
* Carles Gomez
* Diego Dujovne
* Dominique Barthel
* Ivaylo Petrov
* Juan Carlos Zuniga
* Laurent Toutain
* Pascal Thubert
* Vincent Audebert
* Nestor Ayuso
* Klaus Hartke

Action Items from Last time
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* Alex to update the minutes from last time per Ivaylo's point

Action Items
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* Chairs to contact Suresh on rechartering
* Chairs to sync on shepherding SCHC CoAP
* Chairs to contact Dominique to co-seat with the chair present
* Laurent Toutain: ToDo ask Dominique to leave the name as it was before the
last change. * Chairs to list participants to dinner

Agenda
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[16:05] Administrivia                [ 5min]
    o    Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing
    o    Status of drafts

[16:10] Status of drafts.            [10min]
[16:20] Organization of IETF 105.    [20min]
[16:40] AOB                          [20min]

Minutes
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[16:05] Administrivia                [ 5min]
    o    Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing
    o    Status of drafts

PT: Intro from Pascal - please read the Notewell.
PT: Bluesheets are taken in Etherpad (here)

PT: Suresh is doing the last review - to be finalzed by last Friday.
PT & AP: Huge thanks to Suresh.

[16:10] Status of drafts.            [10min]

PT: WGLC complete with success was sent on the mailing list.
LT: There are some minor comments from Dominique that have been addressed.
LT: Some other remarks from Thomas on mailing list - provide some
clarifications, but everything is good. PT: The RFC of OSCORE may be out there
before the cut-off of draft submit, so it may be better to put the OSCORE RFC
instead of draft (if possible, You have to wait more or less 2 weeks ). LT:
Comment form Carsten Borman : don't use the names of CoAP options, but use the
numbers. PT: replace a name by a number AP: Does it matter if we put only
numbers LT: we need a large space for SID to cover it AP: there is like 2
documents, yang draft is a working document that can reflexe this part and CoAP
can go like that PT: LT: the only field is osification, the options that cannot
be cover by SCHC, but this can be done as it is needed because SCHC is open AP:
we ned to have all the numbers we need to get the complete space PT: you can
also reserved as much as you need or you can have a field LT: A new sentence at
the beginig to leave this problem clear. PT & AP: sounds good.

PT: Rechartering will be needed,
AP: Suresh said that as SCHC draft is at the IESG we can update the charter
PT: It is a contrat with the IETF to complete the work on time, it could be
good to have the recharter approuve before the next IETf meeting AP & PT: ToDo
the recharter of the WG to send it to Suresh, in two weeks PT: In 2 weeks we
cannot get an interim because it is too close to the IETF meeting

PT: Alex, you will be shepherd of the CoAP draft?
AP: yes

LT: Dominique send two weeks ago a mail for naming
AP: yesn change the name of the match-mapping MO
LT: it seems that match-mapping was too ambigous
JCZ: Propose to keep the match-mapping (there is no alternative at the time and
it seems sufficiently clear)

LT: Empty All-0  and empty All-1 to change ACK request
JCZ: At a point we were thinking to trigger that for the ACK request
PT: it is just the name
AP: we have used it for almost 2 years, it is a review but what is the value of
renaming LT: Dominique has already done the change from empty All-1 and
empty-All0 to ACK request AP: LoraAlliance has already accept and introduce all
the terms as we used them, I do not how this will be useful to the use of the
protocol. The value added is not too much PT: yes, implementers are used to the
classical naming and will not undestand anymore what are we talking about if we
change the name;

AP: Laurent, do you think it will be complex to revert to the original name?

LT: Empty All-0 is technical use to signal something
AP: I don't see the value in changing the name
LT: ToDo ask Dominique to leave the name as it was before the last change.

AP: SCHC over LoraWan has avanced very well I put in -01
IP: I just preparing the last version I will publish it soon, good progress of t
he work, -00 was adopted, and now we will publish -01 with last comments

PT: news on SCHC over Sigfox?
JCZ: work happening in the background, but the next update will probably be
after the cut off date for IETF 105

AM: Working on ways to advance on SCHC-over-NBIOT. There are several modes
under discussion - for the moment there will be no new version produced. LT:
The YANG data model is there and the work looks good. Next steps is to go to
YANG doctors. PT: Can we organize something at IETF105? AP: can ask for a slot
for the YANG doctors LT: question for CORECONF - what is the status IP: The
status - soon there will be WGLC. Probably small changes that we need to do
before that. The hope is that by IETF105 all issues will be resolved and WGLC
after that.

[16:20] Organization of IETF 105.    [20min]

AP: I will not be in Montreal in presence, but I will participate via Meeteco
PT: Friday is bad news, I will have to rush, why not Dominique?
PT: let's say that and see if he does not disagree
PT: 2hours, be prepared to give deep presentations (such as 15-30 min
presentation time for Ivo) PT: Ivo can give news from the LoRa Alliance,
reasons for value choices, etc.

[16:40] AOB                          [20min]