Minutes interim-2023-emailcore-02: Wed 15:00
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Meeting Minutes Revision of core Email specifications (emailcore) WG
Date and time 2023-11-29 15:00
Title Minutes interim-2023-emailcore-02: Wed 15:00
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EMAILCORE Interim, November 2023

Chairs

Scribe

  • Pete scribing with the help of others

Attendees

Alexey Melnikov, Todd Herr, Barry Leiba, John Levine, John Klensin, Ken
Murchison, Laura Atkins, Pete Resnick

Minutes

No agenda bashes

WG Status - -22 ready for LC, -21 is close

Review of -21 recent changes

  • 1.2 changes - no objections stated; bring to ML if you have any

  • Suggested changes to 7.9. Is new text OK?

    • JK: A little nervous it could be seen as normative, but
      generally fine
    • AM: Discussed, not much objection, sounds good. JK will
      implement the change.

  • Change 8.1.1.2 regarding IANA registry. Objections? Nope, sounds
    good.

  • G.21 - Appendix B and 7.2
    • 7.2: Since it's non-normative, change seems fine. Even if it
      doesn't move to 6409bis, it could reasonably end up in A/S.
    • Appendix B has normative text, but is separate from the main
      protocol, so keeping it an appendix is a good thing.
    • AM: Doing 6409bis as an "Updates" with deltas only might be in
      scope. BL/JK: Disagree, still sounds out of charter. Charter
      explicitly disallows restructuring just for elegance.
    • Conclusion: Decided that changes to 6409 are out of charter
      scope and rechartering for it would be more trouble than it's
      worth; the best choice is to leave Appendix B where it is, and
      add some explanatory text as to why it's there. Changes to 7.2
      can be made.

Review of A/S issues:

  • G.6 submission and TLS issues

    • AM: Sounds like acknowledge existence of port 465 and close the
      ticket
    • JK: But if this is about submission, does it even belong in the
      A/S?
    • Conclusion: Just put the mention of port 465 where you mention
      587

  • Review of some A/S tickets

    • #38: Alexey will see if he can come up with examples; otherwise
      just close
    • #40: Went over the extensions in the list. Will discuss on the
      list whether we've covered the topic and then close if it does
    • #51: Take it to the list with suggestion to close the ticket
    • #66: Take it to the list with suggestion to close the ticket as
      covered in 5322
    • #78: Text was added to 4.2 to capture this issue. JL suggests
      also adding "don't punycode it either".
    • #79: PR/JL: Pointers to other documents should be sufficient to
      address.

Conclusions will be brought to the list, document WGLCs will be coming
soon.