Minutes interim-2024-iab-34: Sun 09:30
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Minutes of the 2024-11-03 IAB Business Meeting
Dublin, Ireland


1. Attendance

Present

  Matthew Bocci
  Alissa Cooper (remote)
  Jay Daley
  Roman Danyliw (IETF Chair)
  Dhruv Dhody
  Wes Hardaker
  Cullen Jennings
  Suresh Krishnan
  Mirja Kühlewind
  Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
  Tommy Pauly (IAB Chair)
  Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
  Alvaro Retana
  David Schinazi
  Qin Wu

Regrets:

  Ryan Polk (ISOC Liaison)
  John Scudder (IESG Liaison)
  Christopher Wood
  Greg Wood


2. New Work Help Desk

  The IAB agreed to re-run the New Work Help Desk experiment on Tuesday
  2024-11-05 from 15:00-16:30. Suresh Krishnan, Mirja Kühlewind, and
  Alvaro Retana will staff the desk.


3. Feedback for ICANN Board Liaison

  The IAB discussed the feedback from the ICANN Board Liaison
  interviews, and what instructions they would like to provide the new
  liaison when they meet with him later this week. In addition to the
  monthly written reports, the IAB will invite the new liaison to join
  an IAB teleconference once per quarter for more in-depth discussions.


4. Planning for Outreach activity at APRICOT2025/APNIC59

  The IAB discussed upcoming outreach activities planned for
  APRICOT2025/APNIC59. Dhruv Dhody is confirmed to attend, and Zahed
  Sarker is tentatively planning to attend.

  Dhruv Dhody will work on a proposal for a session topic and send it
  to the IAB for review.


5. Geo IP topics

  Tommy Pauly noted that draft-pauly-httpbis-geoip-hint (The IP
  Geolocation HTTP Client Hint ) will be discussed in the HTTPBIS WG
  session at IETF 121.

  The abstract of the document is:

    Techniques that improve user privacy by hiding original client IP
    addresses, such as VPNs and proxies, have faced challenges with
    server that rely on IP addresses to determine client location.
    Maintaining a geographically relevant user experience requires
    large pools of IP addresses, which can be costly.  Additionally,
    users often receive inaccurate geolocation results because servers
    rely on geo-IP feeds that can be outdated.  To address these
    challenges, we can allow clients to actively send their network
    geolocation directly to the origin server via an HTTP Client Hint.
    This approach will not only enhance geolocation accuracy and reduce
    IP costs, but it also gives clients more transparency regarding
    their perceived geolocation.

  Roman Danyliw asked what the IAB can do about this. Tommy Pauly
  replied that he thinks there is work to be done on this in the IETF,
  but he is not sure what form it should take.

  Colin Perkins suggested that there could be an IAB document that
  describes the use cases and discusses whether they should be included
  in the Internet architecture.

  Tommy Pauly said that he will see how the discussion at HTTPBIS goes,
  and possibly come back to the IAB to see if there is interest in
  writing something about this. Cullen Jennings and Mirja Kühlewind
  indicated that they would be interested in this.