Pseudowire Congestion Considerations
RFC 7893
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Document history
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2016-06-29
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02 | (System) | RFC published |
2016-06-29
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02 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48 |
2016-05-27
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02 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR |
2016-05-17
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02 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT |
2016-04-27
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02 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2016-04-27
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02 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2016-04-27
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02 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2016-04-27
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02 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2016-04-27
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02 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2016-04-27
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02 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
2016-04-27
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02 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2016-04-27
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02 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2016-04-27
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02 | Amy Vezza | Ballot writeup was changed |
2016-04-26
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02 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot approval text was changed |
2016-04-21
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02 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2016-04-21
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02 | Yaakov Stein | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed |
2016-04-21
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02 | Yaakov Stein | New version available: draft-ietf-pals-congcons-02.txt |
2016-01-15
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01 | Jonathan Hardwick | Request for Early review by RTGDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Keyur Patel. |
2016-01-11
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01 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Menachem Dodge. |
2016-01-07
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01 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2016-01-07
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01 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2016-01-07
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01 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise |
2016-01-06
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01 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2016-01-06
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01 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] -- Abstract -- The abstract seems to have too much detail about what the document concludes. The abstract should just be a general … [Ballot comment] -- Abstract -- The abstract seems to have too much detail about what the document concludes. The abstract should just be a general statement of what the document is about -- just enough that someone can determine whether this document is relevant. I think I would do something like this: NEW Pseudowires (PWs) have become a common mechanism for tunneling traffic, and may be found in unmanaged scenarios competing for network resources both with other PWs and with non-PW traffic, such as TCP/IP flows. It is thus worthwhile specifying under what conditions such competition is acceptable, where the PW traffic does not significantly harm other traffic or contribute more than it should to congestion. This document makes that analysis and provides recommendations. END The rest of the detail needs to be in the document -- perhaps in the Introduction -- but not in the abstract. |
2016-01-06
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01 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2016-01-06
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01 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ben Campbell |
2016-01-06
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01 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot comment] So, very nice. I have one request for you to consider. In this text: The figures presented above demonstrate that TDM service … [Ballot comment] So, very nice. I have one request for you to consider. In this text: The figures presented above demonstrate that TDM service quality degradation generally occurs before the TDM PW would consume more bandwidth that a comparable TCP flow. Thus while TDM PWs are unable to respond to congestion in a TCP-like manner, TDM PWs that are able to deliver acceptable TDM service do not contribute to congestion significantly more than a TCP flow. Combined with our earlier conclusion that Ethernet PWs respond in TCP-like fashion, leads to our final conclusion that no PW-specific congestion-avoidance mechanisms are required. I can't tell whether or not you're saying that a TPM PW only needs a circuit breaker as an absolute last resort, or it doesn't need a circuit breaker, or something else. If you could finish the last sentence with a word about that, I think it would be helpful. |
2016-01-06
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01 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2016-01-06
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01 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alia Atlas |
2016-01-06
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01 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty |
2016-01-06
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01 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot comment] I have no concerns about the contents of this document, but it bothers me that it doesn’t include all the information. Yes, I … [Ballot comment] I have no concerns about the contents of this document, but it bothers me that it doesn’t include all the information. Yes, I realize the figures can’t be properly included in ASCII art. I suggest that the authors include a note (at the top of the document or even in the Abstract) that points the reader to the “complete” version. [Take a look at RFC1305 for an example.] |
2016-01-06
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01 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2016-01-05
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01 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling |
2015-12-21
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01 | Ron Bonica | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Ron Bonica. |
2015-12-17
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01 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Hilarie Orman. |
2015-12-15
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01 | Deborah Brungard | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup |
2015-12-15
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2016-01-07 |
2015-12-15
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot has been issued |
2015-12-15
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01 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2015-12-15
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Created "Approve" ballot |
2015-12-15
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot writeup was changed |
2015-12-15
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2015-12-15
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01 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2015-12-11
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01 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2015-12-11
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01 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall-comment@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-pals-congcons-01.txt, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments: We understand that this … (Via drafts-lastcall-comment@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-pals-congcons-01.txt, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments: We understand that this document doesn't require any IANA actions. While it's often helpful for a document's IANA Considerations section to remain in place upon publication even if there are no actions, if the authors strongly prefer to remove it, IANA does not object. If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible. |
2015-12-04
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01 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Menachem Dodge |
2015-12-04
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01 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Menachem Dodge |
2015-12-03
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01 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2015-12-03
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01 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2015-12-03
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01 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Hilarie Orman |
2015-12-03
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01 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Hilarie Orman |
2015-12-01
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01 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2015-12-01
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01 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" CC: pals-chairs@ietf.org, agmalis@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, draft-ietf-pals-congcons@ietf.org Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" CC: pals-chairs@ietf.org, agmalis@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, draft-ietf-pals-congcons@ietf.org Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Pseudowire Congestion Considerations) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services WG (pals) to consider the following document: - 'Pseudowire Congestion Considerations' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-12-15. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Pseudowires (PWs) have become a common mechanism for tunneling traffic, and may be found in unmanaged scenarios competing for network resources both with other PWs and with non-PW traffic, such as TCP/IP flows. It is thus worthwhile specifying under what conditions such competition is acceptable, i.e., the PW traffic does not significantly harm other traffic or contribute more than it should to congestion. We conclude that PWs transporting responsive traffic behave as desired without the need for additional mechanisms. For inelastic PWs (such as TDM PWs) we derive a bound under which such PWs consume no more network capacity than a TCP flow. For TDM PWs, we find that the level of congestion at which the PW can no longer deliver acceptable TDM service is never significantly greater than this bound, and typically much lower. Therefore, as long as the PW is shut down when it can no longer deliver acceptable TDM service, it will never do significantly more harm than even a single TCP flow. We propose employing a transport circuit breaker to shut down a TDM PW that persistently fails to comply with acceptable TDM service criteria. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-congcons/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-congcons/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2015-12-01
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01 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2015-12-01
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Last call was requested |
2015-12-01
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot approval text was generated |
2015-12-01
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot writeup was generated |
2015-12-01
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01 | Deborah Brungard | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation |
2015-12-01
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01 | Deborah Brungard | Last call announcement was generated |
2015-11-02
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01 | Jonathan Hardwick | Closed request for Early review by RTGDIR with state 'No Response' |
2015-11-02
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01 | Jonathan Hardwick | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Keyur Patel |
2015-11-02
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01 | Jonathan Hardwick | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Keyur Patel |
2015-10-27
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01 | Jonathan Hardwick | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Nabil Bitar |
2015-10-27
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01 | Jonathan Hardwick | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Nabil Bitar |
2015-10-26
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01 | Deborah Brungard | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2015-10-14
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01 | (System) | Notify list changed from "Andrew G. Malis" to (None) |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated … As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Informational. The draft doesn't contain any normative text. Yes. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary Pseudowires (PWs) have become a common mechanism for tunneling traffic, and may be found in unmanaged scenarios competing for network resources both with other PWs and with non-PW traffic, such as TCP/IP flows. It is thus worthwhile specifying under what conditions such competition is acceptable, i.e., the PW traffic does not significantly harm other traffic or contribute more than it should to congestion. We conclude that PWs transporting responsive traffic behave as desired without the need for additional mechanisms. For inelastic PWs (such as TDM PWs) we derive a bound under which such PWs consume no more network capacity than a TCP flow. For TDM PWs, we find that the level of congestion at which the PW can no longer deliver acceptable TDM service is never significantly greater than this bound, and typically much lower. Therefore, as long as the PW is shut down when it can no longer deliver acceptable TDM service, it will never do significantly more harm than even a single TCP flow. We propose employing a transport circuit breaker to shut down a TDM PW that persistently fails to comply with acceptable TDM service criteria. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? This draft was the result of one of the chartered work items in the PWE3 WG, "Publish document outlining PW-specific congestion avoidance and response guidelines." The process has been slow due to the challenge of finding a set of authors that were both qualified and willing to undertake the work in a thorough manner, and once they volunteered, competing demands for their time and changes in their employment. The great majority of the work was done during the lifetime of the PWE3 WG. It received a good set of comments during WG LC, which have been included in the draft, and it is now ready for publication. Note that due to the use of modeling, simulations, and resulting color graphs, the PDF version of this draft is the canonical version. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? This is informational, so there are no implementations. The draft received a thorough set of reviews from both WG chairs during WG LC, and I did another shepherd's review following WG LC comment resolution. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Andy Malis, Deborah Brungard (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I did a thorough final review following WG LC comment resolution, which improved the readability for people perhaps a bit less skilled in the art than the authors. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. N/A (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Yes. There is no IPR associated with the document. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The draft has full consensus. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. None. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are Informative. The authors tried to split them into two sections with an empty Normative section, but the xml2rfc tools didn't allow this (or so they reported). If an empty Normative references section is necessary, this can be added by the RFC Editor. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? N/A (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. N/A (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. N/A (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). N/A (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. N/A (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. N/A |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | Responsible AD changed to Deborah Brungard |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | IESG state changed to Publication Requested |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | Intended Status changed to Informational from None |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | Tag Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway cleared. |
2015-10-06
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01 | Andy Malis | Changed document writeup |
2015-10-05
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01 | Yaakov Stein | New version available: draft-ietf-pals-congcons-01.txt |
2015-09-02
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00 | Andy Malis | Tag Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway set. |
2015-09-02
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00 | Andy Malis | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from WG Document |
2015-09-02
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00 | Andy Malis | Notification list changed to "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> |
2015-09-02
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00 | Andy Malis | Document shepherd changed to Andrew G. Malis |
2015-09-02
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00 | Andy Malis | This document now replaces draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons instead of None |
2015-09-02
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00 | Yaakov Stein | New version available: draft-ietf-pals-congcons-00.txt |