FETCH and PATCH with Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML)
RFC 8790
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2020-09-10
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07 | Marco Tiloca | Changed document external resources from: [] to: github_repo https://github.com/core-wg/senml-etch (Working Group Repo) |
2020-06-30
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07 | (System) | Received changes through RFC Editor sync (created alias RFC 8790, changed title to 'FETCH and PATCH with Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML)', changed abstract to … Received changes through RFC Editor sync (created alias RFC 8790, changed title to 'FETCH and PATCH with Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML)', changed abstract to 'The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type and data model can be used to send collections of resources, such as batches of sensor data or configuration parameters. The Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) FETCH, PATCH, and iPATCH methods enable accessing and updating parts of a resource or multiple resources with one request. This document defines new media types for the CoAP FETCH, PATCH, and iPATCH methods for resources represented using the SenML data model.', changed standardization level to Proposed Standard, changed state to RFC, added RFC published event at 2020-06-30, changed IESG state to RFC Published) |
2020-06-30
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07 | (System) | RFC published |
2020-06-26
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48 |
2020-05-28
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR |
2020-04-02
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT |
2020-03-16
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2020-03-16
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from Waiting on Authors |
2020-03-13
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2020-03-11
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2020-03-11
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07 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2020-03-11
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07 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2020-03-11
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2020-03-11
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07 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2020-03-11
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07 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2020-03-11
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07 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2020-03-11
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07 | Amy Vezza | Ballot approval text was generated |
2020-03-11
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07 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2020-03-10
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07 | Adam Roach | [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my DISCUSS points. |
2020-03-10
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07 | Adam Roach | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Adam Roach has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2020-03-10
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07 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you for addressing my DISCUSS items. --[ old comments (3) Section 3.1. A few questions about how general purpose of a query … [Ballot comment] Thank you for addressing my DISCUSS items. --[ old comments (3) Section 3.1. A few questions about how general purpose of a query language is possible with the FETCH: -- (To confirm based on the text “The SenML Records are selected by giving a set of names that …”) Does a name always have to be in the Fetch Request (i.e., ‘at least one “n” MUST be in the Fetch Request’)? Using the third example in Section 5.1.2 of RFC8428 as a source: -- The current text mentions that names and time can be in the Fetch Pack request. Can other fields also be used as part of the criteria, say “v”? For example, would ‘{“n”:” urn:dev:ow:10e2073a01080063”, “v”:”21.5”}’ return the three name+time records where the value is 21.5? (4) Section 3.1. If there is no match for a Fetch, how is that signaled back in the response? Is there any guidance to provide on error handling via CoAP error codes? (5) Editorial Nits: -- Section 3.1. s/When SenML Records contain also time values/When SenML Records also contain time values/ |
2020-03-10
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07 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Roman Danyliw has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2020-03-09
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07 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2020-03-09
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07 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-07.txt |
2020-03-09
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07 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ari Keränen) |
2020-03-09
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07 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |
2020-03-03
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06 | Alexey Melnikov | Two remaining DISCUSSes don't seem to be addressed. |
2020-03-03
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06 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2019-12-27
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06 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2019-12-27
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06 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2019-12-27
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06 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-06.txt |
2019-12-27
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06 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ari Keränen) |
2019-12-27
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06 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-05
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05 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2019-09-04
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05 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] Adam raises some good points, and I'm looking forward to seeing the ensuing discussion. Just to double-check: these media types/methods are not suitable … [Ballot comment] Adam raises some good points, and I'm looking forward to seeing the ensuing discussion. Just to double-check: these media types/methods are not suitable for use with streaming lists (SenSML)? I'll also echo the concerns of the genart reviewer about having a note in the body of the document about the trailing "_" behavior of key names for extensibility purposes. I was going to ask for more detail of how this works until I checked RFC 8428, but am only assuming the intent is to "do what 8428 does" -- we should be explicit about it. Section 4 As for several other reviewers I'm not entirely sure that I understand the fragment case for fetch/patch records. These records (the request body) are themselves selectors, so a client that wanted to consider just a subset of the records could just send the (appropriately resolved for base values) subset of the records in the request to obtain the selected set of records from the resource instead of requesting the "full" set (from the request body) and then selecting from the response via the fragment. So, are we just specifying the fragment semantics out of a sense of completeness, or are there expected to be cases where we still want to retrieve records from the server just to "throw them away" at the client side? It is perhaps plausible to imagine doing so with (i)Patch, in order to effect a set of changes but only retain the results for a subset of them, but I'm having a harder time coming up with a case for fetch fragments. The best I can do so far is some (as-yet-to-me) hypothetical case where the selector is easier to write with multiple fetch records (e.g., for getting base values) but not all of them are relevant for the desired computation. Section 5 In FETCH and (i)PATCH requests, the client can pass arbitrary names to the target resource for manipulation. The resource implementer must take care to only allow access to names that are actually part of (or accessible through) the target resource. I am somewhat inclined to think that we should say a bit more about explicitly sanitizing the input names in addition to the current "take care" language, to remove or escape any input that could be interpreted with special meaning by the local system. If the client is not allowed to do a GET or PUT on the full target resource (and thus all the names accessible through it), access control rules must be evaluated for each record in the pack. Does it matter if we think about the ACL as being applied to records in the fetch/patch pack vs. the resource's pack? |
2019-09-04
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05 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk |
2019-09-04
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05 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2019-09-04
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05 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot comment] I agree with the Gen-ART reviewer and Warren that Section 4 is not specified enough. It's not clear what "analogously applied" means. Please … [Ballot comment] I agree with the Gen-ART reviewer and Warren that Section 4 is not specified enough. It's not clear what "analogously applied" means. Please respond to the rest of the Gen-ART review. |
2019-09-04
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05 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2019-09-04
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05 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot discuss] (1) Section 5. It’s helpful that this document notes the relevance of SenML’s security and privacy considerations (i.e., Section 13 of RFC8428). … [Ballot discuss] (1) Section 5. It’s helpful that this document notes the relevance of SenML’s security and privacy considerations (i.e., Section 13 of RFC8428). However, this references seems circular. RFC8428 says, “SenML formats alone do not provide any security and instead rely on the protocol that carries them to provide security.” This document seems to be that “protocol that carries them” implying it should cover the security mechanisms. Is it not appropriate to suggest that CoAPs can address the (per RFC8428) “confidentiality, data integrity, and authentication as appropriate for the usage.”? If not, what additional guidance can be provided? (2) Section 5. It seems like it would be appropriate for the server to support access control to restrict the client’s ability access and modify a resource with FETCH and (i)PATCH. My read of “Per “In FETCH and (i)PATCH requests, the client can pass arbitrary names to the target resource for manipulation. The resource implementer must take care to only allow access to names that are actually part of (or accessible through) the target resource”, doesn’t suggest that type of access control. |
2019-09-04
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05 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] (3) Section 3.1. A few questions about how general purpose of a query language is possible with the FETCH: -- (To confirm based … [Ballot comment] (3) Section 3.1. A few questions about how general purpose of a query language is possible with the FETCH: -- (To confirm based on the text “The SenML Records are selected by giving a set of names that …”) Does a name always have to be in the Fetch Request (i.e., ‘at least one “n” MUST be in the Fetch Request’)? Using the third example in Section 5.1.2 of RFC8428 as a source: -- The current text mentions that names and time can be in the Fetch Pack request. Can other fields also be used as part of the criteria, say “v”? For example, would ‘{“n”:” urn:dev:ow:10e2073a01080063”, “v”:”21.5”}’ return the three name+time records where the value is 21.5? (4) Section 3.1. If there is no match for a Fetch, how is that signaled back in the response? Is there any guidance to provide on error handling via CoAP error codes? (5) Editorial Nits: -- Section 3.1. s/When SenML Records contain also time values/When SenML Records also contain time values/ |
2019-09-04
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05 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2019-09-04
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2019-09-04
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05 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] Thank you very much for the time spent on this document. Please address all the comments in: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-core-senml-etch-05-iotdir-lc-kovatsch-2019-09-02/ |
2019-09-04
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05 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2019-09-04
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05 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund |
2019-09-04
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05 | Adam Roach | [Ballot discuss] Thanks to everyone who worked on this document. I have a couple of concerns that I think make this specification ambiguous in some … [Ballot discuss] Thanks to everyone who worked on this document. I have a couple of concerns that I think make this specification ambiguous in some very important ways that will prevent interoperation. These should be pretty simple to fix. Section 3.2 talks about patching operations. One of the things it indicates is: "The names and times of the Patch Records are given and matched in same way as for the Fetch Records, except each Patch Record can match at most one Target Record." I kept waiting for text that tells the recipient of a patch what to do if a Patch Record matches more than one SenML Record (e.g., if the Patch Record contains no time value and so matches several different SenML Records), but I couldn't find any. Presumably, this is an error, and an error should be sent to the client. The ability for one Patch Record to raise an error, in turn, raises the question about how to handle other Patch Records in the same Patch Pack. For example, if I send a Patch Pack with two Patch Records that can be successfully applied, and one that cannot (because it matches multiple SenML Records), does the server apply the two that it can, but not the one that cannot? If so, how does it communicate to the client which records succeeded, and which failed? Relevant to the above points, we also need to clearly specify in this document whether the Patch Records are considered to be applied in sequence. For example, consider a SenML database containing: [ {"n":"urn:dev:ow:10e2073a01080063","u":"%RH","t":1.320067464e+09, "v":20}, {"n":"urn:dev:ow:10e2073a01080063","u":"%RH","t":1.320067524e+09, "v":20.3} ] Now, I send a Patch Pack like: [ {"n":"urn:dev:ow:10e2073a01080063","u":"%RH","t":1.320067464e+09, "v":null}, {"n":"urn:dev:ow:10e2073a01080063","u":"%RH", "v":21} ] Does this succeed, or does it fail? If executed in sequence, this succeeds, since the first Patch Record will remove the first SenML record, and the second Patch Record will unambiguously match the second SenML record (and update it). On the other hand, if we don't specify that records are processed in order, then this might be rejected due to the second Patch Record being ambiguous. Note that this rejection could also arise if an implementation naively attempted to validate records prior to executing them, without taking into account the impact of the preceding record on the state of the SenML record database. There are other ways of handling this, but my strawman for how to address these issues would be to add language that specifies: - Any Patch Record that matches more than one SenML record results in an error that is sent to the client. - If an error is sent to a client for a Patch Pack, then the final state of the SenML records on the client must not be changed. In other words, either the Patch Pack works in its entirety, or it fails in its entirety. - Patch Records in a Patch Pack are processed sequentially. In order to implement both this and the preceding bullet, the implementation will need some ability to roll-back any already-applied changes if an error is encountered. |
2019-09-04
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05 | Adam Roach | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Adam Roach |
2019-09-03
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05 | Suresh Krishnan | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan |
2019-09-03
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05 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] It's a small thing, and not worth putting in as a DISCUSS, but please DO make this change: Please change the registration templates … [Ballot comment] It's a small thing, and not worth putting in as a DISCUSS, but please DO make this change: Please change the registration templates in Sections 6.2 and 6.3 to accurately match the template in Section 5.6 of RFC 6838. Thanks. |
2019-09-03
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05 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2019-09-03
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05 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2019-09-03
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05 | Christian Huitema | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Christian Huitema. Sent review to list. |
2019-09-03
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05 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot comment] Firstly, thank you for writing this, and also thanks to Carlos Pignataro for the OpsDir review. I have a question and a few … [Ballot comment] Firstly, thank you for writing this, and also thanks to Carlos Pignataro for the OpsDir review. I have a question and a few nits which might be worth addressing if you are making other edits: Question: 1: The text in Section 4 feels quite hand-wavy / terse, and I don't think gives sufficient guidance to actually use this. e.g: What takes precedence? Do I refer to a specific record (using fragment identification) and then apply the FETCH / PATCH to that? Or do I use fragment identification to refer to records what have been PATCHed? As might be clear from the above, I'm not a CoRE person, so I'll be happy to accept "Your question makes no sense, this will be blindingly obvious to anyone who's actually implementing this...." :-) Nits: 1: Target Record: A Record in a SenML Pack that is matching the s/is matching/matches/ 2: The names for a Fetch Pack are given using the SenML "name" and/or "base name" Fields. I *think* that in this case "fields" would be better than "Fields" - you seem to be using the term fields generically in this case. |
2019-09-03
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05 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Warren Kumari |
2019-09-02
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05 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Not OK |
2019-09-02
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05 | Matthias Kovatsch | Request for Last Call review by IOTDIR Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Matthias Kovatsch. Sent review to list. |
2019-09-02
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05 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2019-08-30
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05 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed |
2019-08-30
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05 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-05. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-05. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. The IANA Functions Operator has a question about one of the actions requested in the IANA Considerations section of this document. The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there are two actions which we must complete. First, in the CoAP Content-Formats registry on the Constrained RESTful Environments (CoRE) Parameters registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/core-parameters/ two, new registrations are to be made as follows: Media-type: application/senml-etch+json Encoding: ID: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Media-type: application/senml-etch+cbor Encoding: ID: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] IANA Question --> which range in the registry should these values be registered in? Second, in the application subregistry of the Media Types registry located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/ two new media types are to be registered as follows: Name: senml-etch+json Template: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Name: senml-etch+cbor Template: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] The IANA Functions Operator understands that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal Senior IANA Services Specialist |
2019-08-29
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05 | Robert Sparks | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Robert Sparks. Sent review to list. |
2019-08-28
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05 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot comment] Just one minor comment: I guess it okay to use IPSO dimmable light smart object as one real life example, however, one could … [Ballot comment] Just one minor comment: I guess it okay to use IPSO dimmable light smart object as one real life example, however, one could also just use a made-up generic example instead as I guess it's often done in RFCs. |
2019-08-28
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05 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind |
2019-08-25
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05 | Samita Chakrabarti | Request for Last Call review by IOTDIR is assigned to Matthias Kovatsch |
2019-08-25
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05 | Samita Chakrabarti | Request for Last Call review by IOTDIR is assigned to Matthias Kovatsch |
2019-08-22
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Robert Sparks |
2019-08-22
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Robert Sparks |
2019-08-22
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Christian Huitema |
2019-08-22
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Christian Huitema |
2019-08-21
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05 | Éric Vyncke | Requested Last Call review by IOTDIR |
2019-08-19
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05 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Carlos Pignataro. Sent review to list. |
2019-08-19
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Carlos Pignataro |
2019-08-19
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Carlos Pignataro |
2019-08-19
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05 | Amy Vezza | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2019-09-05 |
2019-08-19
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05 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2019-08-19
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05 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2019-09-02): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch@ietf.org, core-chairs@ietf.org, Carsten Bormann , core@ietf.org, … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2019-09-02): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch@ietf.org, core-chairs@ietf.org, Carsten Bormann , core@ietf.org, alexey.melnikov@isode.com, cabo@tzi.org Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (FETCH & PATCH with Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML)) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Constrained RESTful Environments WG (core) to consider the following document: - 'FETCH & PATCH with Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-09-02. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type and data model can be used to send collections of resources, such as batches of sensor data or configuration parameters. The CoAP iPATCH, PATCH, and FETCH methods enable accessing and updating parts of a resource or multiple resources with one request. This document defines new media types for the CoAP iPATCH, PATCH, and FETCH methods for resources represented with the SenML data model. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-senml-etch/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-senml-etch/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2019-08-19
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot has been issued |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | Created "Approve" ballot |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot writeup was changed |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | RFC Editor Note was changed |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | RFC Editor Note for ballot was generated |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | RFC Editor Note for ballot was generated |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | Last call was requested |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | Last call announcement was generated |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot approval text was generated |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot writeup was generated |
2019-08-19
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2019-08-17
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2019-08-17
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05 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-05.txt |
2019-08-17
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05 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-08-17
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Mojan Mohajer , Ari Keranen |
2019-08-17
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05 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |
2019-08-15
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04 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation |
2019-08-05
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04 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Standards-Track -- this specification defines a set of media types to be used in interchange. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type and data model can be used to send collections of resources, such as batches of sensor data or configuration parameters. The existing media types (defined in RFC 8428) are useful for the traditional operations GET, PUT, POST. The CoAP iPATCH, PATCH, and FETCH methods enable accessing and updating parts of a resource or multiple resources with one request. For using these methods to access and operate on resources represented with the SenML data model, the present document defines variants of the SenML media types, for JSON and CBOR representations only. Working Group Summary Most of the discussion in the WG (up to and including the last call) centered around whether the existing media types should be shoe-horned into use with the new methods or new media types were needed. In the end, having a simple way to apply a slight variant won out over having a more complex way to apply something that is nominally, but not really SenML. Christian Amsüss was kind enough to summarize his view of the result of the discussion into a Wiki page: https://github.com/core-wg/wiki/wiki/On-media-types-for-FETCH-and-(i)PATCH which will be useful in avoiding revisiting the issues when they inevitably come up for the next media type. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? Implementations of this media type will often be done in the context of the OMA LWM2M specification, which is set to pick up the new media types in future versions (1.1.1 hints: "The media types, application/senml-etch+json and application/senml-etch+cbor, will remove the requirement for context aware parsing."). None of the implementations this shepherd is aware of is public yet: one existing implementation, and one implementation that is in the product plan of a vendor. A media type review has been requested 2019-07-12 in Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Shepherd: Carsten Bormann (CoRE Co-chair) Responsible AD: Alexey Melnikov (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. This document was reviewed by the Shepherd in a "Chair's Review", a process step we like to exercise in the CoRE WG before issuing a WGLC. The document is ready. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? This is a simple specification. The WGLC ended without any further reviews at all, maybe because the document is so obvious. After some nudging, re-reviews came from previous commenters (Christian Amsüss) as well as a new review from Klaus Hartke, whose comments were then addressed in -04. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. No. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Yes; both authors indicated to the Shepherd that they are not personally aware of any IPR claims applying to this specification. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? SenML is a bit of a specialty topic in the WG. Those interested in SenML, understand and agree. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. None found. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. A media type review has been requested 2019-07-12 in (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are Proposed Standard RFCs (plus BCP 14). (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No. (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 8126). No new registries. Registration of two new media types and the attendant CoRE Content-Format numbers. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. No new registries. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No FDT were in use. The JSON examples in the specification have been checked by the Shepherd; a superfluous comma in the second JSON example (FETCH response) in Section 3.1 needs to be removed before advancing the document. |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | Responsible AD changed to Alexey Melnikov |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2019-07-12
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04 | Carsten Bormann | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Standards-Track -- this specification defines a set of media types to be used in interchange. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type and data model can be used to send collections of resources, such as batches of sensor data or configuration parameters. The existing media types (defined in RFC 8428) are useful for the traditional operations GET, PUT, POST. The CoAP iPATCH, PATCH, and FETCH methods enable accessing and updating parts of a resource or multiple resources with one request. For using these methods to access and operate on resources represented with the SenML data model, the present document defines variants of the SenML media types, for JSON and CBOR representations only. Working Group Summary Most of the discussion in the WG (up to and including the last call) centered around whether the existing media types should be shoe-horned into use with the new methods or new media types were needed. In the end, having a simple way to apply a slight variant won out over having a more complex way to apply something that is nominally, but not really SenML. Christian Amsüss was kind enough to summarize his view of the result of the discussion into a Wiki page: https://github.com/core-wg/wiki/wiki/On-media-types-for-FETCH-and-(i)PATCH which will be useful in avoiding revisiting the issues when they inevitably come up for the next media type. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? Implementations of this media type will often be done in the context of the OMA LWM2M specification, which is set to pick up the new media types in future versions (1.1.1 hints: "The media types, application/senml-etch+json and application/senml-etch+cbor, will remove the requirement for context aware parsing."). None of the implementations this shepherd is aware of is public yet: one existing implementation, and one implementation that is in the product plan of a vendor. A media type review has been requested 2019-07-12 in Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Shepherd: Carsten Bormann (CoRE Co-chair) Responsible AD: Alexey Melnikov (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. This document was reviewed by the Shepherd in a "Chair's Review", a process step we like to exercise in the CoRE WG before issuing a WGLC. The document is ready. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? This is a simple specification. The WGLC ended without any further reviews at all, maybe because the document is so obvious. After some nudging, re-reviews came from previous commenters (Christian Amsüss) as well as a new review from Klaus Hartke, whose comments were then addressed in -04. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. No. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Yes; both authors indicated to the Shepherd that they are not personally aware of any IPR claims applying to this specification. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? SenML is a bit of a specialty topic in the WG. Those interested in SenML, understand and agree. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. None found. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. A media type review has been requested 2019-07-12 in (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are Proposed Standard RFCs (plus BCP 14). (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No. (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 8126). No new registries. Registration of two new media types and the attendant CoRE Content-Format numbers. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. No new registries. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No FDT were in use. The JSON examples in the specification have been checked by the Shepherd; a superfluous comma in the second JSON example (FETCH response) in Section 3.1 needs to be removed before advancing the document. |
2019-07-08
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04 | Carsten Bormann | Notification list changed to Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> |
2019-07-08
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04 | Carsten Bormann | Document shepherd changed to Carsten Bormann |
2019-07-08
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04 | Carsten Bormann | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from WG Document |
2019-07-08
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04 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-04.txt |
2019-07-08
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04 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-07-08
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Mojan Mohajer , core-chairs@ietf.org, Ari Keranen |
2019-07-08
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04 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |
2019-03-11
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03 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-03.txt |
2019-03-11
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03 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-03-11
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Mojan Mohajer , Ari Keranen |
2019-03-11
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03 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |
2019-02-18
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02 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-02.txt |
2019-02-18
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-02-18
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Mojan Mohajer , core-chairs@ietf.org, Ari Keranen |
2019-02-18
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02 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |
2019-02-12
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01 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-01.txt |
2019-02-12
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01 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-02-12
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Mojan Mohajer , core-chairs@ietf.org, Ari Keranen |
2019-02-12
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01 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |
2018-10-23
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00 | Carsten Bormann | This document now replaces draft-keranen-core-senml-fetch instead of None |
2018-10-23
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00 | Ari Keränen | New version available: draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-00.txt |
2018-10-23
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00 | (System) | WG -00 approved |
2018-10-22
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00 | Ari Keränen | Set submitter to "Ari Keranen ", replaces to draft-keranen-core-senml-fetch and sent approval email to group chairs: core-chairs@ietf.org |
2018-10-22
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00 | Ari Keränen | Uploaded new revision |