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Date Rev. By Action
2022-03-02
02 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-calext-02.txt
2022-03-02
01-03 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from External Review (Message to Community, Selected by Secretariat)
2022-03-02
01-03 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2022-03-02
01-03 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2022-03-02
01-03 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2022-03-02
01-03 Francesca Palombini New version available: charter-ietf-calext-01-03.txt
2022-03-02
01-02 Francesca Palombini New version available: charter-ietf-calext-01-02.txt
2022-02-17
01-01 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2022-02-16
01-01 Benjamin Kaduk
[Ballot comment]
As I remarked on the -01-00:
How is "use cases where there is demand" to be evaluated?  In a certain
sense, if a …
[Ballot comment]
As I remarked on the -01-00:
How is "use cases where there is demand" to be evaluated?  In a certain
sense, if a single user asks for a feature, that is "demand", but I do
not think that scenario should prompt us to take on the work in question.

Do we perhaps want to say "significant" or "sufficient" demand?


Separately, does a "robust" mapping between icalendar/jscalendar or
vcard/jscontact entail the ability to round-trip between formats without
loss of fidelity?  Or is it a weaker requirement, to allow for some variation
when appropriate for the data models of the pair of protocols in question?
2022-02-16
01-01 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk
2022-02-16
01-01 Martin Duke
[Ballot comment]
"generate documents describing existing vendor extensions which are in common usage, and
likely to be encountered in the wild."

Is there a reason …
[Ballot comment]
"generate documents describing existing vendor extensions which are in common usage, and
likely to be encountered in the wild."

Is there a reason this wouldn't be done in the ISE? I assume that in these cases the IETF wouldn't have change control!
2022-02-16
01-01 Martin Duke [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Duke
2022-02-16
01-01 Zaheduzzaman Sarker [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker
2022-02-16
01-01 Francesca Palombini [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Francesca Palombini
2022-02-15
01-01 Robert Wilton [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Robert Wilton
2022-02-15
01-01 Murray Kucherawy [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy
2022-02-15
01-01 Roman Danyliw [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw
2022-02-04
01-01 Erik Kline [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2022-02-17 from 2022-02-03
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan WG new work message text was changed
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan Created "Approve" ballot
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2022-02-04
01-01 Cindy Morgan State changed to External Review (Message to Community, Selected by Secretariat) from Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal Steering Group/IAB Review)
2022-02-03
01-01 Lars Eggert [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Lars Eggert
2022-02-03
01-01 Zaheduzzaman Sarker [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker
2022-02-02
01-01 Robert Wilton [Ballot comment]
Should the charter explicitly state that defining any new Calendaring or Contact formats is out of scope?
2022-02-02
01-01 Robert Wilton [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Robert Wilton
2022-02-02
01-01 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot Position Update] Position for Benjamin Kaduk has been changed to No Objection from No Record
2022-02-02
01-01 Benjamin Kaduk
[Ballot comment]
As Éric notes, the markdown formatter seems to have mangled some (but
not all?) of the lists.

How is "use cases where there …
[Ballot comment]
As Éric notes, the markdown formatter seems to have mangled some (but
not all?) of the lists.

How is "use cases where there is demand" to be evaluated?  In a certain
sense, if a single user asks for a feature, that is "demand", but I do
not think that scenario should prompt us to take on the work in question.
2022-02-02
01-01 Benjamin Kaduk Ballot comment text updated for Benjamin Kaduk
2022-02-02
01-01 Roman Danyliw [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw
2022-02-02
01-01 Éric Vyncke [Ballot comment]
Only one comment: fix the Markdown of the charter ;-)
2022-02-02
01-01 Éric Vyncke [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke
2022-02-01
01-01 Murray Kucherawy [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy
2022-01-26
01-01 Martin Duke [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Duke
2022-01-25
01-01 Francesca Palombini Added charter milestone "Submit JSON Contact document to IESG", due April 2022
2022-01-21
01-01 Erik Kline [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline
2022-01-21
01-01 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] Position for Alvaro Retana has been changed to No Objection from Block
2022-01-21
01-01 Francesca Palombini New version available: charter-ietf-calext-01-01.txt
2022-01-18
01-00 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2022-02-03 from 2022-01-20
2022-01-18
01-00 Alvaro Retana
[Ballot block]
  - publish informative documents describing existing vendor extensions
    which did not come through the IETF consensus process, but are
  …
[Ballot block]
  - publish informative documents describing existing vendor extensions
    which did not come through the IETF consensus process, but are
    nonetheless in common usage and likely to be encountered in the wild.

I understand the intent, but all IETF documents require consensus (rfc8789). Publishing a vendor extension without consensus should be done through the ISE.
2022-01-18
01-00 Alvaro Retana Ballot discuss text updated for Alvaro Retana
2022-01-18
01-00 Alvaro Retana
[Ballot block]
  - publish informative documents describing existing vendor extensions which
    did not come through the IETF consensus process, but are nonetheless …
[Ballot block]
  - publish informative documents describing existing vendor extensions which
    did not come through the IETF consensus process, but are nonetheless in
    common usage and likely to be encountered in the wild.

I understand the intent, but all IETF documents require consensus (rfc8789). Publishing a vendor extension without consensus should be done through the ISE.
2022-01-18
01-00 Alvaro Retana
[Ballot comment]
Please help me understand how JSContact fits into this charter.  It confuses me because it is a draft that belongs to a different …
[Ballot comment]
Please help me understand how JSContact fits into this charter.  It confuses me because it is a draft that belongs to a different WG, which also contradicts the statement that "work which is in scope for any other ART area working group" is out of scope.  It may be premature to list draft-ietf-jmap-jscontact as part of the base documents.
2022-01-18
01-00 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, Block, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Changed charter milestone "Submit Subscription Upgrade document to IESG for publication", set due date to January 2022 from December 2021
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Added milestone "Submit calendar series document to IESG for publication", due July 2022, from current group milestones
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Added milestone "Submit Serverside Subscription draft to IESG for publication", due June 2022, from current group milestones
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Added milestone "Submit vpoll document to IESG for publication", due June 2022, from current group milestones
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Added milestone "Submit JSCalendar mapping document to IESG for publication", due April 2022, from current group milestones
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Added milestone "Submit task draft to IESG", due January 2022, from current group milestones
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Added milestone "Submit Subscription Upgrade document to IESG for publication", due December 2021, from current group milestones
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Francesca Palombini
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini WG action text was changed
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini WG review text was changed
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini WG review text was changed
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini State changed to Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal Steering Group/IAB Review) from Draft Charter
2022-01-18
01-00 Francesca Palombini Notification list changed to none from cyrus@daboo.name
2022-01-17
01-00 Francesca Palombini Telechat date has been changed to 2022-01-20 from 2014-08-21
2022-01-13
01-00 Francesca Palombini State changed to Draft Charter from Approved
2022-01-13
01-00 Francesca Palombini New version available: charter-ietf-calext-01-00.txt
2021-03-10
01 Cindy Morgan Responsible AD changed to Francesca Palombini from Barry Leiba
2019-03-27
01 Cindy Morgan Responsible AD changed to Barry Leiba from Alexey Melnikov
2018-01-30
01 Amy Vezza Responsible AD changed to Alexey Melnikov from Barry Leiba
2015-10-14
01 (System) Notify list changed from cyrus@daboo.name, calsify@ietf.org to cyrus@daboo.name
2014-08-28
01 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-calext-01.txt
2014-08-28
00-04 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from IESG review
2014-08-28
00-04 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2014-08-28
00-04 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2014-08-28
00-04 Cindy Morgan Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2014-08-28
00-04 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2014-08-28
00-03 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2014-08-28
00-03 Cindy Morgan New version to remove WG name from top of charter text (so it doesn't appear twice on the page).
2014-08-28
00-04 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-calext-00-04.txt
2014-08-21
00-03 Alia Atlas [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alia Atlas
2014-08-21
00-03 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2014-08-21
00-03 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2014-08-20
00-03 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2014-08-20
00-03 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2014-08-20
00-03 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2014-08-20
00-03 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Richard Barnes
2014-08-20
00-03 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2014-08-20
00-03 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2014-08-19
00-03 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2014-08-19
00-03 Barry Leiba New version available: charter-ietf-calext-00-03.txt
2014-08-19
00-02 Adrian Farrel
[Ballot comment]
No objection, but...

> out of scope for the working group:
>
> - Any change that significantly impacts backwards compatibility with
> …
[Ballot comment]
No objection, but...

> out of scope for the working group:
>
> - Any change that significantly impacts backwards compatibility with
> existing deployed iCalendar/iTIP/CalDAV clients and servers.

I wonder whether what you consider as significant is the same as what I would call significant.
2014-08-19
00-02 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2014-08-19
00-02 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2014-08-18
00-02 Spencer Dawkins
[Ballot comment]
This all looks fine. One question for my benefit.

"- Define a set of new iCalendar properties and parameters to standardise
some existing …
[Ballot comment]
This all looks fine. One question for my benefit.

"- Define a set of new iCalendar properties and parameters to standardise
some existing experimental X- properties in common use, based on a
survey of existing implementations."

I wasn't quite sure whether this meant standardizing an "X-Foo" experimental property, or standardizing a renamed "Foo:". It's unlikely that needs to be stated in a charter, either way, but just in case it does ... if the deliverable was "standardise some existing experimental properties", I wouldn't have thought to ask, but given the existence of http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648, I wondered.
2014-08-18
00-02 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2014-08-18
00-02 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2014-08-18
00-02 Barry Leiba Created "Approve" ballot
2014-08-18
00-02 Barry Leiba State changed to IESG review from External review
2014-08-10
00-02 Barry Leiba New version available: charter-ietf-calext-00-02.txt
2014-08-08
00-01 Barry Leiba New version available: charter-ietf-calext-00-01.txt
2014-08-08
00-00 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2014-08-21 from 2014-08-07
2014-08-08
00-00 Cindy Morgan State changed to External review from Internal review
2014-08-08
00-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2014-08-08
00-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2014-08-08
00-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2014-08-07
00-00 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2014-08-07
00-00 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2014-08-06
00-00 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2014-08-06
00-00 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2014-08-06
00-00 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2014-08-06
00-00 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Richard Barnes
2014-08-06
00-00 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2014-08-06
00-00 Alissa Cooper
[Ballot comment]
This text seems a little vague:

"Define a set of new iCalendar properties and parameters to standardise
some existing experimental X- properties. This …
[Ballot comment]
This text seems a little vague:

"Define a set of new iCalendar properties and parameters to standardise
some existing experimental X- properties. This will include a new set of
"top-level" properties for the "CALENDAR" component, as well as an new
"IMAGE" property to allow users more control of the visual appearance of
events and tasks within their calendars."

Are there specific X- properties the group intends to standardize besides the IMAGE property (assuming "IMAGE" is an example of such a property, which I'm not sure about)? The use of "some" in the first sentence makes it sound like there is some expected subset of existing properties that will be in scope, but they're not listed.
2014-08-06
00-00 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2014-08-06
00-00 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2014-08-05
00-00 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2014-08-05
00-00 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2014-08-04
00-00 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2014-07-26
00-00 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2014-07-26
00-00 Barry Leiba WG action text was changed
2014-07-26
00-00 Barry Leiba WG review text was changed
2014-07-26
00-00 Barry Leiba Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2014-07-26
00-00 Barry Leiba State changed to Internal review from Informal IESG review
2014-07-09
00-00 Barry Leiba Notification list changed to cyrus@daboo.name, calsify@ietf.org from cyrus@daboo.name
2014-07-09
00-00 Barry Leiba Responsible AD changed to Barry Leiba
2014-07-09
00-00 Barry Leiba Notification list changed to cyrus@daboo.name
2014-07-09
00-00 Barry Leiba Placed on agenda for telechat - 2014-08-07
2014-07-09
00-00 Barry Leiba Initial review time expires 2014-07-16
2014-07-09
00-00 Barry Leiba State changed to Informal IESG review from Not currently under review
2014-07-09
00-00 Barry Leiba New version available: charter-ietf-calext-00-00.txt