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charter-ietf-rift-01

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Date Rev. By Action
2023-03-29
01 Amy Vezza Responsible AD changed to Jim Guichard from Alvaro Retana
2018-02-09
01 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-rift-01.txt
2018-02-09
00-07 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from IESG review
2018-02-09
00-07 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2018-02-09
00-07 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2018-02-09
00-07 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2018-02-09
00-07 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-07.txt
2018-02-09
00-06 Alvaro Retana Added charter milestone "Submit Applicability Statement to IESG for publication", due April 2019
2018-02-09
00-06 Alvaro Retana Added charter milestone "Submit YANG module to IESG for publication", due April 2019
2018-02-09
00-06 Alvaro Retana Added charter milestone "Submit Threat Analysis to IESG for publication", due February 2019
2018-02-09
00-06 Alvaro Retana Added charter milestone "Submit protocol specification to IESG for publication", due February 2019
2018-02-09
00-06 Alvaro Retana Added charter milestone "Adopt a protocol specification document", due March 2018
2018-02-08
00-06 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot comment]
Thank you for the modifications around security and privacy mitigations in the charter text.
2018-02-08
00-06 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] Position for Kathleen Moriarty has been changed to No Objection from Block
2018-02-08
00-06 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-06.txt
2018-02-08
00-05 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot comment]
There is a wrapping problem among one of the items under "A Standards Track specification that will include".
2018-02-08
00-05 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov
2018-02-07
00-05 Suresh Krishnan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan
2018-02-07
00-05 Adam Roach [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adam Roach
2018-02-07
00-05 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2018-02-07
00-05 Spencer Dawkins
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for considering my comments during internal review.

I did have one other suggestion - the first deliverable doesn't actually say it's for …
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for considering my comments during internal review.

I did have one other suggestion - the first deliverable doesn't actually say it's for a routing protocol. Perhaps

s/A Standards Track specification/A Standards Track routing protocol specification/

?
2018-02-07
00-05 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2018-02-07
00-05 Ben Campbell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ben Campbell
2018-02-07
00-05 Terry Manderson [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Terry Manderson
2018-02-07
00-05 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2018-02-07
00-05 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] Position for Deborah Brungard has been changed to Yes from No Objection
2018-02-07
00-05 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard
2018-02-07
00-05 Alia Atlas [Ballot comment]
I'm a proponent - so quite in favor of course.
2018-02-07
00-05 Alia Atlas [Ballot Position Update] New position, Abstain, has been recorded for Alia Atlas
2018-02-07
00-05 Kathleen Moriarty
[Ballot block]
I appreciate the work on a threat analysis, I'd like to see something in the charter that includes security mitigations in the protocol …
[Ballot block]
I appreciate the work on a threat analysis, I'd like to see something in the charter that includes security mitigations in the protocol resulting from the threat analysis work.  Can you adjust the text to include this?

Perhaps something like:

OLD:
- A Standards Track specification that will include:
  - an Implementation Status section as described in RFC 7942
  - an Operational Considerations section to explain how the protocol is
  configured, deployed, and diagnosed - Security and Privacy Considerations,
  although this material may refer to a separate Threat Analysis document
  (q.v.)

- A YANG module focused on configuration and monitoring of protocol instances

- An Applicability Statement that describes how to deploy and configure the
protocol in networks with different topologies

- A Security Threat Analysis document that describes the attack vectors and
mitigations that shall be sent for publication at the same time as the
protocol specification

NEW:
- A Standards Track specification that will include:
  - an Implementation Status section as described in RFC 7942
  - an Operational Considerations section to explain how the protocol is
  configured, deployed, and diagnosed, security and privacy mitigations
  for the protocol as identified in the threat analysis document.

- A YANG module focused on configuration and monitoring of protocol instances

- An Applicability Statement that describes how to deploy and configure the
protocol in networks with different topologies

- A Security Threat Analysis document that describes the attack vectors and
mitigations that shall be sent for publication at the same time as the
protocol specification
2018-02-07
00-05 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, Block, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2018-02-05
00-05 Mirja Kühlewind [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind
2018-02-02
00-05 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2018-02-02
00-05 Alvaro Retana Created "Approve" ballot
2018-02-02
00-05 Alvaro Retana Closed "Approve" ballot
2018-02-02
00-05 Alvaro Retana State changed to IESG review from External review
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2018-02-08 from 2018-01-25
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan Created "Approve" ballot
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan State changed to External review from Internal review
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG new work message text was changed
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG new work message text was changed
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2018-01-26
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2018-01-25
00-05 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-05.txt
2018-01-25
00-04 Mirja Kühlewind [Ballot comment]
Not sure if the Threat Analysis and Applicability Statement need to be separate documents or published in an RFC at all.
2018-01-25
00-04 Mirja Kühlewind [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind
2018-01-25
00-04 Benoît Claise
[Ballot comment]
- A YANG module focused on configuration of protocol instances
I hope that this work item is
- A YANG module focused on …
[Ballot comment]
- A YANG module focused on configuration of protocol instances
I hope that this work item is
- A YANG module focused on configuration and monitoring of protocol instances

Editorial
- A Standards Track specification based on draft-przygienda-rift. The document
will include:
  - an Implementation Status section as described in RFC 7942
  - an Operational Considerations section to explain how the protocol is
  configured, deployed, and diagnosed - Security and Privacy Considerations,
  although this material may refer to a separate Threat Analysis document
  (q.v.)

The sentence starting with "- Security and Privacy Considerations, ..." should have a new line.
2018-01-25
00-04 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2018-01-24
00-04 Terry Manderson [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Terry Manderson
2018-01-24
00-04 Suresh Krishnan
[Ballot comment]
I also share Ben and Warren's concern on naming a specific document as the deliverable even though I think it might be the …
[Ballot comment]
I also share Ben and Warren's concern on naming a specific document as the deliverable even though I think it might be the best candidate.
2018-01-24
00-04 Suresh Krishnan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan
2018-01-24
00-04 Adam Roach [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adam Roach
2018-01-24
00-04 Alia Atlas [Ballot comment]
I am a co-author on draft-przygienda-rift and thus a proponent for the WG.
2018-01-24
00-04 Alia Atlas [Ballot Position Update] New position, Abstain, has been recorded for Alia Atlas
2018-01-24
00-04 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot comment]
The charter is hard to understand for a non specialist. Expanding acronyms on first use/adding references would help.
2018-01-24
00-04 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov
2018-01-24
00-04 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2018-01-24
00-04 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2018-01-23
00-04 Ben Campbell [Ballot comment]
I agree with the comments about basing charter deliverables on specific documents. Perhaps the proper term should be "consider as input".
2018-01-23
00-04 Ben Campbell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ben Campbell
2018-01-23
00-04 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard
2018-01-22
00-04 Warren Kumari
[Ballot comment]
I'm always concerned when a charter is specifically based on a document:
"The RIFT Working Group is chartered for the following list of …
[Ballot comment]
I'm always concerned when a charter is specifically based on a document:
"The RIFT Working Group is chartered for the following list of items:

- A Standards Track specification based on draft-przygienda-rift. The document
will include:"

What happens if, after chartering, the WG discovers a major issue, and/or decides to rewrite draft-przygienda-rift from scratch?
Perhaps it should instead be something like: "A Standards Track specification addressing the requirements in draft-przygienda-rift"? Or moving the document itself into milestones?

Note that this is just a comment; I won't be offended if you choose to ignore it :-)
2018-01-22
00-04 Warren Kumari [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Warren Kumari
2018-01-19
00-04 Spencer Dawkins
[Ballot comment]
I THINK I'm happy to see this work go forward, but I am almost sufficiently confused by the current charter to say "not …
[Ballot comment]
I THINK I'm happy to see this work go forward, but I am almost sufficiently confused by the current charter to say "not ready for external review yet". Should be easy to fix, though, so not Blocking.

(Could you spell out "Clos" on first use? I had to google that)

It seemed to me that at least some of the discussion in DCROUTING BOF described some of the reasons why "routing in data centers is different". It would be helpful to me, if there was a mention of at least one or two differences that make new protocol work necessary or desirable. I mean, like, one sentence. It's possible to reverse-engineer that out of the bulleted list a bit further down, but that's kind of new-participant-hostile.

The description of the protocol that the working group would deliver is tied to the deliverable based on draft-przygienda-rift, is that right? I had to look at the table of contents for draft-przygienda-rift to figure that out - and even then, I'm not sure.

Perhaps

- A Standards Track **routing protocol** specification based on draft-przygienda-rift. The document
will include:
  - an Implementation Status section as described in RFC 7942
  - an Operational Considerations section to explain how the protocol is
  configured, deployed, and diagnosed - Security and Privacy Considerations,
  although this material may refer to a separate Threat Analysis document
  (q.v.)
 
?
2018-01-19
00-04 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2018-01-18
00-04 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana Notification list changed to aretana.ietf@gmail.com
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana Placed on agenda for telechat - 2018-01-25
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana WG action text was changed
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana WG review text was changed
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana WG review text was changed
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana State changed to Internal review from Informal IESG review
2018-01-17
00-04 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-04.txt
2018-01-17
00-03 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-03.txt
2018-01-17
00-02 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-02.txt
2018-01-17
00-01 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-01.txt
2018-01-17
00-00 Alvaro Retana Initial review time expires 2018-01-24
2018-01-17
00-00 Alvaro Retana State changed to Informal IESG review from Not currently under review
2018-01-17
00-00 Alvaro Retana New version available: charter-ietf-rift-00-00.txt