Bootstrapped TLS Authentication with Proof of Knowledge (TLS-POK)
draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-11
Revision differences
Document history
| Date | Rev. | By | Action |
|---|---|---|---|
|
2025-10-13
|
11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
|
2025-10-13
|
11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
|
2025-10-13
|
11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
|
2025-10-10
|
11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
|
2025-10-05
|
11 | Tero Kivinen | Closed request for IETF Last Call review by SECDIR with state 'Overtaken by Events' |
|
2025-10-05
|
11 | Tero Kivinen | Assignment of request for IETF Last Call review by SECDIR to Hannes Tschofenig was marked no-response |
|
2025-10-03
|
11 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT from AUTH |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH from EDIT |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-11.txt |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2025-10-01
|
11 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Morgan Condie | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Morgan Condie | IESG has approved the document |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Morgan Condie | Closed "Approve" ballot |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Morgan Condie | Ballot approval text was generated |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you for addressing my DICUSS and COMMENT feedback. |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Roman Danyliw has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my previous DISCUSS and (most) COMMENTs. Restating the ones that don't appear to have changed, but these are non-blocking. Given … [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my previous DISCUSS and (most) COMMENTs. Restating the ones that don't appear to have changed, but these are non-blocking. Given that knowledge of the "public" key is being used as an identity proof on the network's part, it's inherently not public. Consider rephrasing throughout to use the term "asymmetric" since both keys are semi-secret, and using names other than public and private? Referring to a key pair as a "key" (in BSK) is also somewhat confusing -- consider perhaps "Bootstrap Keypair" and the same abbreviation? ===NITS FOLLOW=== 2: "to identity" => "to identify" |
|
2025-10-01
|
10 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mike Bishop has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
|
2025-09-30
|
10 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot comment] Hi Owen and Dan, I checked -08/-10 diff. The changes address my DISCUSS [1]. Thank you. Cheers, Med [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/gHySrRNc5n86NfzOijYXIE6F1BE/ |
|
2025-09-30
|
10 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mohamed Boucadair has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
|
2025-09-30
|
10 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-10.txt |
|
2025-09-30
|
10 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2025-09-30
|
10 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2025-09-30
|
10 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2025-09-29
|
09 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
|
2025-09-29
|
09 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed |
|
2025-09-29
|
09 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
|
2025-09-29
|
09 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-09.txt |
|
2025-09-29
|
09 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2025-09-29
|
09 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2025-09-29
|
09 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2025-09-04
|
08 | Jean Mahoney | Closed request for IETF Last Call review by GENART with state 'Overtaken by Events': Gen AD has already balloted |
|
2025-09-04
|
08 | Jean Mahoney | Assignment of request for IETF Last Call review by GENART to Lucas Pardue was marked no-response |
|
2025-09-04
|
08 | (System) | Changed action holders to Owen Friel, Dan Harkins (IESG state changed) |
|
2025-09-04
|
08 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
|
2025-09-03
|
08 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot discuss] Hi Owen and Dan, Thank you for the effort put into this specification. I have a concern with this text: CURRENT: Thus, … [Ballot discuss] Hi Owen and Dan, Thank you for the effort put into this specification. I have a concern with this text: CURRENT: Thus, the intention is that DPP is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against Wi-Fi networks, and TLS-POK is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against wired networks. I guess these recommendations target network operators. It is not clear to me why are we making a recommendation about DPP. Also, not sure this document is the place to self-promote the proposed TLS-POK. Rather than trying to formulate any recommendations, I think that it is more appropriate to simply set the applicability scope of the proposal. Cheers, Med |
|
2025-09-03
|
08 | Mohamed Boucadair | Ballot discuss text updated for Mohamed Boucadair |
|
2025-09-03
|
08 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot discuss] Hi Owen and Dan, Thank you for the effort put into this specification. I have a concern with this text: CURRENT: Thus, … [Ballot discuss] Hi Owen and Dan, Thank you for the effort put into this specification. I have a concern with this text: CURRENT: Thus, the intention is that DPP is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against Wi-Fi networks, and TLS-POK is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against wired networks. I guess these recommendations targets network operators. It is not clear to me why are we making a recommendation about DPP. Also, not sure this document is the place to self-promote the proposed TLS-POK. Rather than trying to formulate any recommendations, I think that it is more appropriate to simply set the applicability scope of the proposal. Cheers, Med |
|
2025-09-03
|
08 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Mohamed Boucadair |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot discuss] ** Section 1. Thus, the intention is that DPP is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against Wi-Fi networks, and TLS-POK … [Ballot discuss] ** Section 1. Thus, the intention is that DPP is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against Wi-Fi networks, and TLS-POK is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against wired networks. -- Normative language is being used for [DPP], making it a normative reference -- Why is the EMU WG specifying normative requirement “against Wi-Fi networks” for a standard not specified by the IETF? -- Since normative behavior is being specified for DPP, what are DPP’s security considerations? |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] ** Section 2. In this model, physical possession of the device implies legitimate ownership. What does “legitimate ownership” mean in this … [Ballot comment] ** Section 2. In this model, physical possession of the device implies legitimate ownership. What does “legitimate ownership” mean in this context? Isn’t it just “physical control of the system”? |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Amanda Baber | No expert yet for the registry that's going to be approved by draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa, so the AD approved instead. |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Amanda Baber | IANA Experts State changed to Expert Reviews OK |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Not OK |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot discuss] This is hopefully easy to resolve. In Section 3.2, the document makes the following normative statement: CURRENT: "When clients use the [duckling] form … [Ballot discuss] This is hopefully easy to resolve. In Section 3.2, the document makes the following normative statement: CURRENT: "When clients use the [duckling] form of authentication, they MAY forgo...." [duckling] is an informative reference, and so cannot be the condition of a normative statement. As it's not a specification, I wouldn't think the solution is to make it a normative reference. Perhaps the specific behavior that's involved can be normatively stated here? CONSIDER: "When clients are configured to trust the first network which proves possession of their public key (as in [duckling]), they MAY forgo...." |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot comment] The colloquial term "catch-22" might not be accessible to all readers. If you retain it, consider an informative reference such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic); it … [Ballot comment] The colloquial term "catch-22" might not be accessible to all readers. If you retain it, consider an informative reference such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic); it might perhaps be better to reword away from this term. Maybe "circular dependency"? Given that knowledge of the "public" key is being used as an identity proof on the network's part, it's inherently not public. Consider rephrasing throughout to use the term "asymmetric" since both keys are semi-secret, and using names other than public and private? Referring to a key pair as a "key" (in BSK) is also somewhat confusing -- consider perhaps "Bootstrap Keypair" and the same abbreviation? In Section 3, embedding the name of the RFC doesn't really improve clarity: CURRENT: the client must use [RFC7250] Using Raw Public Keys in TLS and DTLS in order to present the BSK as raw public key. CONSIDER: the client must present the BSK as a raw public key as described in [RFC7250]. In Section 3.1, this sentence is probably correct but reads awkwardly: CURRENT: A performance versus storage tradeoff a server can choose is to precompute.... CONSIDER: A server can choose to precompute.... Doing so represents a tradeoff between performance and storage. === NITS FOLLOW === Abstract and 1.1: Consider adding a "/" in "public private key pair" as is done in the Introduction. 2: "to identity" => "to identify" 3.2: "and client" => "and the client", "is knows" => "it knows" 4: "the server received" => "the server receives" |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Mike Bishop |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot comment] Finally a specification I understand! :^) While these comments are non-blocking, I'd like to see them addressed. Section 1.4: NAI? [I'd add this … [Ballot comment] Finally a specification I understand! :^) While these comments are non-blocking, I'd like to see them addressed. Section 1.4: NAI? [I'd add this to Section 1.1] Section 6, third bullet: SHA-256 is very suitable for this function in the foreseeable future (to address the review comment). ECDSA for authentication will need to be replaced when CRQCs are readily available (i.e. attack in real time is possible). - no change requested for either. Section 6 or 7: I would add, 'The BSK public key MUST NOT be freely available on the network'. Trust for this method is completely dependent on this, stating this early and often isn't a bad thing. Section 7: The compressed ECDSA key pair needs to be correctly generated and validated. I think this could be a simple statement with a reference to FIPS 186-5, section 6.2, while RFC 5480 covers compressed points. Normative References: You also need a reference for ECDSA and generation of key pairs. Possibly: https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/FIPS/NIST.FIPS.186-5.pdf Normative References: You need a reference for ECDSA w/ compressed points. Possibly: RFC5480 (I don't think RFC 8813 covers this part). |
|
2025-09-02
|
08 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deb Cooley |
|
2025-09-01
|
08 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
|
2025-09-01
|
08 | Ketan Talaulikar | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ketan Talaulikar |
|
2025-08-31
|
08 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gunter Van de Velde |
|
2025-08-28
|
08 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-08 CC @evyncke Thank you for the work put into this document. Please find below some … [Ballot comment] # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-08 CC @evyncke Thank you for the work put into this document. Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points/nits (replies would be appreciated even if only for my own education). Special thanks to Peter Yee for the shepherd's detailed write-up including the WG consensus and the justification of the intended status. I hope that this review helps to improve the document, Regards, -éric ## COMMENTS (non-blocking) ### Abstract Like Gorry, expanding the less-known DPP would be welcome. As this I-D is related to EAP, should the terms "EAP peer" and "EAP server" be used ? "Boostrap" or "on-boarding" for the title ? The latter is clearer IMHO. ### Section 1 `This poses a catch-22` is hard to understand for non-English speakers. Also later in the text. What about non-wired networks that are not Wi-Fi ? E.g., IEEE 802.15.4 ### Section 1.2 Is the usefulness of this document limited to EC only ? I.e., no plain RSA or PQC hybrid systems ? Who is the "we" in `which we refer to as`? The authors ? The WG ? The IETF ? Please refrain from using "we". I find the use of "network" in this section rather vague... possibly because could be a layer-2 switch or a BRAS or ... and further text uses "server" (e.g., in section 2), this is somehow confusing. Suggest using only one term and defining it in the terminology section. ### Section 2 Should there be an informative reference to `"entity authentication"`? ### Section 4 `Authenticator on an 802.1X-protected port` another term for "network" (see my related comment about section 1.2); suggest using the terminology section to establish that these terms are related or even identical. ## NITS (non-blocking / cosmetic) ### Use of SVG graphics To make a much nicer HTML rendering, suggest using the aasvg too to generate SVG graphics. It is worth a try especially if the I-D uses the Kramdown file format ;-) ### Section 7 s/TLS sever on-boarding/TLS server on-boarding/ ? Suggest running a spell checker on the text. |
|
2025-08-28
|
08 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
|
2025-08-28
|
08 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
|
2025-08-27
|
08 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot comment] Thank you for prepaing this document. I did not see any transport-related issues, but have a couple of general comments that might be … [Ballot comment] Thank you for prepaing this document. I did not see any transport-related issues, but have a couple of general comments that might be useful to address in the next revision: 1. I would encourage expansion of DPP in the abstract to ensure that anyone scanning the abstract finds and understands the term, e.g.: Device Provisioning Protocol (DPP) 2. The following text appears before the declaration of RFC 2119 keywords: "Thus, the intention is that DPP is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against Wi-Fi networks, and TLS-POK is the RECOMMENDED mechanism for bootstrapping against wired networks." - It could be that the RECOMMENDED could be lower case, since this does not describe interoperability. It could also be possible to move this text slightly later in the document. |
|
2025-08-27
|
08 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gorry Fairhurst |
|
2025-08-27
|
08 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mahesh Jethanandani |
|
2025-08-27
|
08 | Andy Newton | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Andy Newton |
|
2025-08-27
|
08 | Cindy Morgan | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2025-09-04 |
|
2025-08-26
|
08 | Paul Wouters | Ballot has been issued |
|
2025-08-26
|
08 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Paul Wouters |
|
2025-08-26
|
08 | Paul Wouters | Created "Approve" ballot |
|
2025-08-26
|
08 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
|
2025-08-26
|
08 | Paul Wouters | Ballot writeup was changed |
|
2025-07-31
|
08 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
|
2025-07-24
|
08 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-08. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that the … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-08. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that the action requested in the IANA Considerations section of this document is dependent upon the approval of and completion of IANA Actions in another document: draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa IANA also understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which IANA must complete. In the EAP Provisioning Identifiers Registry to be created upon IESG approval of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa in Section 6.2, a single new registration will be made as follows: NAI: tls-pok-dpp@teap.eap.arpa Method Type: TEAP Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] As this document requests registrations in an Expert Review or Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we will need to complete the required Expert Review once the new registry has been created and experts designated. This review must be completed before the document's IANA state can be changed to "IANA OK." IANA understands that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The action requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the action that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
|
2025-07-24
|
08 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed |
|
2025-07-15
|
08 | Tero Kivinen | Request for IETF Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Hannes Tschofenig |
|
2025-07-12
|
08 | Marc Blanchet | Request for IETF Last Call review by ARTART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Marc Blanchet. Sent review to list. |
|
2025-07-11
|
08 | Barry Leiba | Request for IETF Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Marc Blanchet |
|
2025-07-11
|
08 | Jean Mahoney | Request for IETF Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Lucas Pardue |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Morgan Condie | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Morgan Condie | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-07-31): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls@ietf.org, emu-chairs@ietf.org, emu@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, peter@akayla.com … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-07-31): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls@ietf.org, emu-chairs@ietf.org, emu@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, peter@akayla.com Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Bootstrapped TLS Authentication with Proof of Knowledge (TLS-POK)) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the EAP Method Update WG (emu) to consider the following document: - 'Bootstrapped TLS Authentication with Proof of Knowledge (TLS-POK)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2025-07-31. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines a mechanism that enables a bootstrapping device to establish trust and mutually authenticate against a network. Bootstrapping devices have a public private key pair, and this mechanism enables a network server to prove to the device that it knows the public key, and the device to prove to the server that it knows the private key. The mechanism leverages existing DPP and TLS standards and can be used in an EAP exchange. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. The document contains these normative downward references. See RFC 3967 for additional information: rfc8773: TLS 1.3 Extension for Certificate-Based Authentication with an External Pre-Shared Key (Experimental - Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) stream) |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Morgan Condie | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Morgan Condie | Last call announcement was changed |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Paul Wouters | Last call was requested |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Paul Wouters | Ballot approval text was generated |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Paul Wouters | Ballot writeup was generated |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Publication Requested |
|
2025-07-10
|
08 | Paul Wouters | Last call announcement was generated |
|
2025-07-08
|
08 | Peter Yee | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Within the context of the relatively small EMU WG, there was concurrence from major contributors in the WG for the publication of this specification. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The authors have gracefully incorporated feedback from the WG, which is reflected in the current version of the draft. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There have been no expressions of extreme discontent. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? At least one of the authors has implemented this specification. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. Although this specification is an adaption of the Wi-Fi Alliance’s DPP (Device Provisioning Protocol), it is wire bound and in no way supplants DPP for WLAN environments. Thus, it is a novel protocol within its environments and does not interact with the technologies of other IETF working group or external organizations in a manner that would suggest their review be beneficial. Despite containing TLS in the name, this draft is a user of TLS but does not modify it, relying instead on features of RFC 8446, RFC 8773 (to be replaced with RFC 8773bis upon its publication), and secondarily, RFC 7250. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. This document has an IANA registration that is dependent on the EAP Provisioning Identifiers registry defined in draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. This registry has not yet been created as draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa awaits IESG review. The EAP Provisioning Identifiers registry requires the approval of a Designated Expert for any new entry. It appears that the registration request in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls meets the requirements of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? There is no YANG module in this document. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. This document does not contain its own formal language sections that require validation. What structured text that is present is imported from an existing RFC (RFC 9258). ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? It is the document shepherd’s opinion that this document is needed, clearlyl written, complete, correctly designed, and ready for the ministrations of the responsible Area Director. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? From the ART area, this document lightly touches upon UTF-8 for use in the registered NAI. From the OPS area, this specification touches upon DNS special use names / top-level name. Both of these are covered by the reliance upon draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa, and it does not appear that the NAI in this document contravenes the requirements that are already met by draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. Overall, the document falls within the Security Area. The Security Considerations section does address the threat model, noting the misappropriation of certain keys and the consequences of such. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? This document is intended to be published as a Proposed Standard. Given its basis in an existing industry standard (DPP), it is believed that this adaptation is suitable for publication on the Standards Track. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in BCP 79? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The authors are aware of their IPR disclosure requirements. No disclosures have been filed. A call for IPR disclosures to the EMU WG mailing list elicited no disclosures either. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the "Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) There are two errors, both downrefs (RFC 5869 and RFC 8773). The former is Informational and is the standard reference for HKDF. It is already normatively referenced by standards such as RFC 8446 (TLS 1.3). The latter of the two downrefs will be replaced by RFC 8773bis, which has already been advanced to the IESG for publication. RFC 8773bis essentially changes that the status of RFC 8773 from Experimental to Proposed Standard by republishing and polishing it. The other two outputs from idnits are an unused reference (a reference to IEEE 802.1X is needed in section 1.1) and a referenced document version mismatch (for draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa, which was recently revised due to IETF LC inputs; this will be addressed by an update to this document that either points to the newer version of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa or to the eventual RFC.) Regarding the content guideline revew information, the draft is appropriately named. It contains all of the required sections. It does not contain a Privacy Considerations section, but this may be considered superfluous as the protocol is for one-time use in provisioning a device with no user identity. It does not contain an Implementation Status section, however one could be added. There is at least one known implementation by one of the authors. The document appears to meet the requirements for language and style. The document uses ASCII-art diagrams but does not have SVG versions available. The ASCII diagrams appear to render nicely in HTML. Aside from a small amount of TLS Presentation Language text (see RFC 8446, section 3) that is imported from RFC 9258, the document does not itself use any formal language. The document does appear to meet the requirements of the protocol checklist. None of the examples in this draft impinge upon the requirements for example addresses. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References. No. While there is a downref for RFC 5869, this use is found in other RFCs as well. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are to IETF specifications. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967 and BCP 97) that are not already listed in the DOWNREF registry? If so, list them. RFC 5869 is already in the downref registry. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. The only normative non-RFC referenced is draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. This has been submitted to the IESG for publication. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). The IANA considerations section was reviewed against the requirements of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. It appears to be meet the requirements of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa, although these are of course subject to change prior to that document’s publication. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. This document not create any IANA registries. It relies on a to-be-created IANA registry that is subject to DE review. That registry is specified in draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. |
|
2025-07-08
|
08 | Peter Yee | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
|
2025-07-08
|
08 | Peter Yee | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
|
2025-07-08
|
08 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
|
2025-07-08
|
08 | Peter Yee | Responsible AD changed to Paul Wouters |
|
2025-07-08
|
08 | Peter Yee | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
|
2025-07-08
|
08 | Peter Yee | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Within the context of the relatively small EMU WG, there was concurrence from major contributors in the WG for the publication of this specification. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The authors have gracefully incorporated feedback from the WG, which is reflected in the current version of the draft. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There have been no expressions of extreme discontent. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? At least one of the authors has implemented this specification. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. Although this specification is an adaption of the Wi-Fi Alliance’s DPP (Device Provisioning Protocol), it is wire bound and in no way supplants DPP for WLAN environments. Thus, it is a novel protocol within its environments and does not interact with the technologies of other IETF working group or external organizations in a manner that would suggest their review be beneficial. Despite containing TLS in the name, this draft is a user of TLS but does not modify it, relying instead on features of RFC 8446, RFC 8773 (to be replaced with RFC 8773bis upon its publication), and secondarily, RFC 7250. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. This document has an IANA registration that is dependent on the EAP Provisioning Identifiers registry defined in draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. This registry has not yet been created as draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa awaits IESG review. The EAP Provisioning Identifiers registry requires the approval of a Designated Expert for any new entry. It appears that the registration request in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls meets the requirements of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? There is no YANG module in this document. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. This document does not contain its own formal language sections that require validation. What structured text that is present is imported from an existing RFC (RFC 9258). ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? It is the document shepherd’s opinion that this document is needed, clearlyl written, complete, correctly designed, and ready for the ministrations of the responsible Area Director. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? From the ART area, this document lightly touches upon UTF-8 for use in the registered NAI. From the OPS area, this specification touches upon DNS special use names / top-level name. Both of these are covered by the reliance upon draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa, and it does not appear that the NAI in this document contravenes the requirements that are already met by draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. Overall, the document falls within the Security Area. The Security Considerations section does address the threat model, noting the misappropriation of certain keys and the consequences of such. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? This document is intended to be published as a Proposed Standard. Given its basis in an existing industry standard (DPP), it is believed that this adaptation is suitable for publication on the Standards Track. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in BCP 79? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The authors are aware of their IPR disclosure requirements. No disclosures have been filed. A call for IPR disclosures to the EMU WG mailing list elicited no disclosures either. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the "Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) There are two errors, both downrefs (RFC 5869 and RFC 8773). The former is Informational and is the standard reference for HKDF. It is already normatively referenced by standards such as RFC 8446 (TLS 1.3). The latter of the two downrefs will be replaced by RFC 8773bis, which has already been advanced to the IESG for publication. RFC 8773bis essentially changes that the status of RFC 8773 from Experimental to Proposed Standard by republishing and polishing it. The other two outputs from idnits are an unused reference (a reference to IEEE 802.1X is needed in section 1.1) and a referenced document version mismatch (for draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa, which was recently revised due to IETF LC inputs; this will be addressed by an update to this document that either points to the newer version of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa or to the eventual RFC.) Regarding the content guideline revew information, the draft is appropriately named. It contains all of the required sections. It does not contain a Privacy Considerations section, but this may be considered superfluous as the protocol is for one-time use in provisioning a device with no user identity. It does not contain an Implementation Status section, however one could be added. There is at least one known implementation by one of the authors. The document appears to meet the requirements for language and style. The document uses ASCII-art diagrams but does not have SVG versions available. The ASCII diagrams appear to render nicely in HTML. Aside from a small amount of TLS Presentation Language text (see RFC 8446, section 3) that is imported from RFC 9258, the document does not itself use any formal language. The document does appear to meet the requirements of the protocol checklist. None of the examples in this draft impinge upon the requirements for example addresses. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References. No. While there is a downref for RFC 5869, this use is found in other RFCs as well. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are to IETF specifications. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967 and BCP 97) that are not already listed in the DOWNREF registry? If so, list them. RFC 5869 is already in the downref registry. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. The only normative non-RFC referenced is draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. This has been submitted to the IESG for publication. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). The IANA considerations section was reviewed against the requirements of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. It appears to be meet the requirements of draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa, although these are of course subject to change prior to that document’s publication. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. This document not create any IANA registries. It relies on a to-be-created IANA registry that is subject to DE review. That registry is specified in draft-ietf-emu-eap-arpa. |
|
2025-05-12
|
08 | Peter Yee | Notification list changed to peter@akayla.com because the document shepherd was set |
|
2025-05-12
|
08 | Peter Yee | Document shepherd changed to Peter E. Yee |
|
2025-02-18
|
08 | Peter Yee | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
|
2025-02-06
|
08 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-08.txt |
|
2025-02-06
|
08 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2025-02-06
|
08 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2025-02-06
|
08 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2024-11-07
|
07 | Peter Yee | Added to session: IETF-121: emu Tue-1800 |
|
2024-10-21
|
07 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-07.txt |
|
2024-10-21
|
07 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2024-10-21
|
07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2024-10-21
|
07 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2024-09-12
|
06 | Peter Yee | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
|
2024-09-12
|
06 | Peter Yee | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
|
2024-09-11
|
06 | Peter Yee | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
|
2024-08-19
|
06 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-06.txt |
|
2024-08-19
|
06 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2024-08-19
|
06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2024-08-19
|
06 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2024-02-17
|
05 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-05.txt |
|
2024-02-17
|
05 | Owen Friel | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Owen Friel) |
|
2024-02-17
|
05 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2024-01-28
|
04 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-04.txt |
|
2024-01-28
|
04 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2024-01-28
|
04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2024-01-28
|
04 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2023-12-29
|
03 | (System) | Document has expired |
|
2023-06-22
|
03 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-03.txt |
|
2023-06-22
|
03 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2023-06-22
|
03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2023-06-22
|
03 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2023-02-10
|
02 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-02.txt |
|
2023-02-10
|
02 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2023-02-10
|
02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2023-02-10
|
02 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2022-10-24
|
01 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-01.txt |
|
2022-10-24
|
01 | (System) | New version approved |
|
2022-10-24
|
01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Dan Harkins , Owen Friel |
|
2022-10-24
|
01 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |
|
2022-10-11
|
00 | Peter Yee | This document now replaces draft-friel-tls-eap-dpp instead of None |
|
2022-10-11
|
00 | Owen Friel | New version available: draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-00.txt |
|
2022-10-11
|
00 | Peter Yee | WG -00 approved |
|
2022-10-10
|
00 | Owen Friel | Set submitter to "Owen Friel ", replaces to draft-friel-tls-eap-dpp and sent approval email to group chairs: emu-chairs@ietf.org |
|
2022-10-10
|
00 | Owen Friel | Uploaded new revision |