Sliding Window Random Linear Code (RLC) Forward Erasure Correction (FEC) Schemes for FECFRAME
draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-16
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16 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-16.txt |
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15 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you for addressing my DISCUSSes and COMMENTs. |
2019-06-18
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15 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Roman Danyliw has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
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15 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-15.txt |
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14 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
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14 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2019-05-28
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14 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] Thank you for resolving my Discuss points! Additionally, I really like the reorganization of the document(s) -- it seems to do a great … [Ballot comment] Thank you for resolving my Discuss points! Additionally, I really like the reorganization of the document(s) -- it seems to do a great job at putting the core protocol/algorithm elements in the spotlight, while retaining the interesting discussion about use cases and parameter derivation in a less-prominent location. The introductory material for Appendix C also does a great job to frame the subsequent discussion. Thank you! I agree with Roman that the code snippets should be more clearly marked as (a specific version of) C and in the case of generate_coding_coefficeints() as a normative part of the protocol specification. Section 3.1 Appendix C proposes non normative technics to derive those parameters, depending on the use-case specificities. nit: I think "techniques" would be more conventional usage than "technics" here. Section 3.5 Any implementation of this PRNG MUST fulfill three validation criteria: the one described in [tinymt32] (for the TinyMT32 32-bit unsigned integer generator), and the two others detailed in Appendix A (for the mapping to 4-bit and 8-bit intervals). [...] As I noted on the tinymt32 document, this phrasing is a bit odd, though it feels less out of place here than in the tinymt32 document. Section 3.6 * (in/out) cc_tab[] pointer to a table of the right size to store * coding coefficients. All coefficients are * stored as bytes, regardless of the m parameter, * upon return of this function. Assuming this is C, it's perhaps a bit jarring to spell the function parameter as "cc_tab[]" but describe it as a pointer. (In either case, the encoding for the function call will be that of a pointer, of course, so the array syntax seems needlessly confusing.) Section 3.7.1 The two RLC FEC Schemes specified in this document reuse the Finite Fields defined in [RFC5510], section 8.1. More specifically, the [...] The following irreducible polynomial MUST be used for GF(2^^8): x^^8 + x^^4 + x^^3 + x^^2 + 1 Given the former chunk, the normative "MUST" in the second chunk is redundant, since the authoritative source for this polynomial is the cited portion of RFC 5510. Section 3.7.2 For each byte of position i in each source and the repair symbol, where i belongs to {0; E-1}, compute: nit: do we expect the usage of the curly braces {} to indicate a closed interval to be well-understood by the readership (as opposed to square brackets [])? The XOR sum of the byte of position i in each source is computed and stored in the corresponding byte of the repair symbol, where i belongs to {0; E-1}. [...] (ditto) Section 6.1 I might add a note that the scheme for chosing the repair key is entirely at the discretion of the sender, since it is communicated in the wire format to the receiver(s), and that the sequential counter is presented as the simplest method that ensures new coefficients for each repair packet. As already mentioned, other schemes are possible, and we definitely don't want any receivers hardcoding the assumption of sequentially incrementing counter. Section 9.1 In case of small encoding windows, the associated processing overhead is not an issue (e.g., we measured decoding speeds between 745 Mbps and 2.8 Gbps on an ARM Cortex-A15 embedded board in [Roca17] for an encoding window of size 18 or 23 symbols). [...] Just to double-check: does the 2.8 Gbps correspond to the window of 18 symbols or 23? Appendix A Please note whether the numbers should be read out column-first or row-first. I refer again to my comment on the tinymt32 document regarding the normative "MUST" language here vs. stating that these are test vectors. Appendix B side note: I don't propose to have you redo the analysis, but looking at the small sequences generated using seed values from 0 to 1,000,000 - 1 is not terribly representative of the FEC usage, since the seed values there are limited to the range from 0 to 16k. Comprehensive statistics on the 16k possible sequences (corresponding to the 16k possible repair keys) of 20 pseudo-random numbers would be more compelling. Also, for the scenario presented in Figure 12, I'm not sure I agree with the claim that "although the distribution is not perfect, there is no major bias". Not in that I think there is bias, but in that I think that we should not expect the average occurrences column to be a constant -- the numbers here seem largely within the expected sort of variances for this type of sampling. Appendix D Finally, it is worth noting that a receiver that benefits from an FEC protection significantly higher than what is required to recover from packet losses, can choose to reduce the ls_max_size. In that case lost ADUs will be recovered without relying on this optimization. nit(?): It's not entirely clear to me that this statement is well-placed in its current location. |
2019-05-28
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14 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Benjamin Kaduk has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2019-05-28
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14 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot discuss] A few code nits for Section 3.6 so that the code compiles: ** To make the combination of this source code and that … [Ballot discuss] A few code nits for Section 3.6 so that the code compiles: ** To make the combination of this source code and that in draft-ietf-tsvwg-tinymt32 compile requires that the directive “#include ” be added (for the memset). ** The final return in Section 3.6 is missing a semicolon: s/return 0/return 0;/ |
2019-05-28
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14 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] (1) Section 3.5 Is there any guidance that needs to be provided on the value of the seed to tinymt32_init? (2) Section 3.6. … [Ballot comment] (1) Section 3.5 Is there any guidance that needs to be provided on the value of the seed to tinymt32_init? (2) Section 3.6. In the code comments for cc_nb, I recommend explicitly stating: s/number of entries in the table/ number of entries in the cc_tab[] table/ (3) Section 3.6. Multiple C code fragments are used in the text. Somewhere the text should state that the examples are C code and made a reference to what version -- consider C99 (ISO/IEC 9899:1999), C11 (ISO/IEC 9899:2011), C18 (ISO/IEC 9899:2018). (4) Other References Nits Section 1. Please include a reference for FECFRAME on first introduction. Section 1.1. What is the reference for Raptor/RaptorQ? (6) Editorial Nits Abstract. No references are permitted in the abstract Section 1.1. Multiple Typos. s/either a end-/either an end-/g Section 1.2. Extra space. s/constraints) ./constraints)./ Section 1.4. Multiple Typos. s/signalling/signaling/g Section 6.2. Typo. s/Section Section 3.6/Section 3.6/ |
2019-05-28
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14 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2019-05-28
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14 | Martin Vigoureux | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux |
2019-05-28
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14 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-14.txt |
2019-05-28
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14 | (System) | New version approved |
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14 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Belkacem Teibi , Vincent Roca |
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14 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2019-05-23
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13 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2019-05-20
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13 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot comment] Thanks for resolving the copyright issue. I would prefer to see the Coding Coefficients Generation Function specified normatively in text and not only … [Ballot comment] Thanks for resolving the copyright issue. I would prefer to see the Coding Coefficients Generation Function specified normatively in text and not only as code. |
2019-05-20
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13 | Mirja Kühlewind | Ballot comment text updated for Mirja Kühlewind |
2019-05-20
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13 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot comment] Thanks for resolving the copyright issue. I would prefer to see the Coding Coefficients Generation Function specified normative in text and not only … [Ballot comment] Thanks for resolving the copyright issue. I would prefer to see the Coding Coefficients Generation Function specified normative in text and not only as code. |
2019-05-20
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13 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mirja Kühlewind has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2019-05-17
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13 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund |
2019-05-17
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13 | Cindy Morgan | Telechat date has been changed to 2019-05-30 from 2018-10-11 |
2019-05-17
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13 | Magnus Westerlund | Putting this back on the IESG agenda as a returning item, now that the normative dependency on the PRNG is also in IESG evaluation. This … Putting this back on the IESG agenda as a returning item, now that the normative dependency on the PRNG is also in IESG evaluation. This requires some ballot positions from "new" ADs. |
2019-05-17
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13 | Magnus Westerlund | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2019-03-27
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13 | Amy Vezza | Shepherding AD changed to Magnus Westerlund |
2019-03-05
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13 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-13.txt |
2019-03-05
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13 | (System) | New version approved |
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12 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-12.txt |
2019-02-11
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12 | (System) | New version approved |
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11 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-11.txt |
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11 | (System) | New version approved |
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10 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
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10 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-10.txt |
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10 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-01-17
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10 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org, Belkacem Teibi |
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2018-10-11
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09 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2018-10-11
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09 | Ignas Bagdonas | [Ballot comment] What is the status of interoperable implementations for this specification, and is there any operational experience? Implementation Status section shows one prototype implementation … [Ballot comment] What is the status of interoperable implementations for this specification, and is there any operational experience? Implementation Status section shows one prototype implementation - is there any other running code, has any interoperability validation been done? |
2018-10-11
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09 | Ignas Bagdonas | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ignas Bagdonas |
2018-10-11
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09 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot comment] I support Mirja's DISCUSS. I don't believe the copyright line can be included as-is in the appendix without also naming the IETF Trust. |
2018-10-11
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09 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2018-10-10
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09 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot discuss] Thank you for making updates in response to the secdir review; they do help. That said, while I think this is a useful … [Ballot discuss] Thank you for making updates in response to the secdir review; they do help. That said, while I think this is a useful technology to specify and a clear improvement over the existing block-based schemes, this document still has several flaws that need to be fixed before it is ready for publication. Most notably, it is internally inconsistent in several places, about whether bitrate must be fixed or can vary, or whether the encoding/decoding window size ratio is 3/4, or whether the encoding window size only changes during startup as new ADUs are added to reach the max encoding window size, etc. I attempt to note these in my COMMENTs (noting that they were written as I go through the document and I may not have caught all the places where text later in the document clarifies the situation). It's also implied but not entirely clear that the C code is part of the normative algorithm specification, and the C code itself incurs implementation-defined behavior (so as to not be usable as a deterministic protocol standard element), as Ekr notes. The recommendation to bound ls_max_size in section 3.1.1 does not seem strong enough to allow this scheme to meet its stated constraints for maximum latency, since solving very large linear systems can exceed the provisioned timeslot. The SDP encoding for the fssi parmeter should explicitly state that the name value "E" is used to convey the E parameter. Multi-byte integer protocol fields need to specify the endianness of encoding (i.e., network byte order). (E.g., for ESI and E values.) The security considerations need to be checked about whether only DoS or data corruption is possible in a few situations. (More details on almost all of these in the COMMENT section.) |
2018-10-10
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09 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] Section 1.1 With FECFRAME, there is a single FEC encoding point (either a end- host/server (source) or a middlebox) and a … [Ballot comment] Section 1.1 With FECFRAME, there is a single FEC encoding point (either a end- host/server (source) or a middlebox) and a single FEC decoding point (either a end-host (receiver) or middlebox). [...] "single decoding point" seems inconsistent with "multicast/broadcast" size, the higher the robustness (e.g., in front of long packet erasure bursts), but also the higher the maximum decoding latency Is this supposed to be "in the face of" instead of "in front of"? Section 1.2 This document introduces two fully-specified FEC Schemes that follow a totally different approach: [...] The first time I read this I parsed it as "totally different from each other", as opposed to "totally different from the existing block codes". Section 2 It seems like a potentially artificial limitation to assume constant input/output bitrate. Section 3.1 Maximum FEC-related latency budget, max_lat (in seconds) with real- time flows: A reader might assume that this is limited to an integral number of seconds, which seems like an artifical limitation. Omitting the parenthetical might actually be an improvement, as whatever mechanism is used to specify the limit would necessarily include units. For instance, at session start, upon receiving new source ADUs, the ew_size progressively increases until it reaches its maximum value, ew_max_size. [...] This seems to preclude the window shrinking due to ADUs aging out. Under the constant bitrate assumption this is justified, but a somewhat artificial limitation. Symbol size, E (in bytes): the E parameter determines the source and repair symbol sizes (necessarily equal). This is an input parameter that enables a FECFRAME sender to derive other internal parameters, as explained below. An implementation at a sender SHOULD fix the E parameter and communicate it as part of the FEC Scheme-Specific Information (Section 4.1.1.2). Under what condition would a sender not fix the E parameter? (That is, why is this a SHOULD and not a MUST? The communication in FEC Scheme-Specific Information is clearly a SHOULD, though.) The source ADU flow may be a Constant Bitrate (CBR) or Variable BitRate (VBR) flow. The flow's minimum/ maximum bitrate might or might not be known. The FEC Schemes can This seems to contradict the previous assumption of constant bitrate, absent grossly inefficient padding schemes. Section 3.1.1 For the FEC Schemes specified in this document, in line with [Roca17], the ew_max_size SHOULD be computed with: ew_max_size = dw_max_size * 0.75 This is just self-citing to a document that itself makes an arbitrary choice of parameter. It would seem that the reference should be limited to something like "being able to reuse analysis from [Roca17]" rather than attempting to use it as a definitive explanation for this parameter selection. The ew_max_size is the main parameter at a FECFRAME sender. It is RECOMMENDED to check that the ew_max_size value stays within reasonnable bounds in order to avoid hazardous behaviours. Can you provide concrete values or guidelines for "reasonable bounds", or describe the spectrum of possible hazardous behaviors? A receiver can then easily compute dw_max_size: dw_max_size = max_NSS_observed / 0.75 This formula only holds when the "SHOULD" above is adhered to. It may be more appropriate to just fix this parameter at 0.75 as a property of this FEC Scheme and not include text admitting the possibility for other values. (Other values could be specified later with different FEC encoding IDs.) It is RECOMMENDED to check that the ls_max_size value stays within reasonnable bounds in order to avoid hazardous behaviours. It's unclear that this can only be RECOMMENDED, as the time needed to solve the system is included in the max_lat latency budget (and the encoder does not necessarily know the details of the decoder system!). Section 3.1.2 Beyond these general guidelines, the details of how to manage these situations at a FECFRAME sender and receiver can depend on additional considerations that are out of scope of this document. It would be nice to give some indication of what sorts of things might go into these additional considerations, like the nature of loss along the path, the computational capabilities of the receiver(s), if the input bitrate has predictable structure, etc. Section 3.2 At a sender, an ADU coming from the application cannot directly be mapped to source symbols. [...] It might be better to say "is not" than "cannot", as the latter leaves the reader searching for an explanation which is not yet available, and to some extent this is just a design choice made in the protocol specification (a consequence of allowing multiple flows to use the same FEC context). ADU can be assigned to the right source flow (note that transport port numbers and IP addresses cannot be used to that purpose as they are not recovered during FEC decoding). Please note that the repair packets are going over a different 5-tuple than the source packets, to help the reader make the connection about the lack of address/port information. Section 3.3 This would be a fine place to mention how symbols are numbered/indexed and forward-reference to Section 4.1.4 Section 3.4 In order to validate an implementation of this PRNG, using seed 1, the 10,000th value returned by: tinymt32_rand(s, 0xffff) MUST be equal to 0x7c37. "seed 1" sounds like an index into an enumerated list; it's probably better to say "a seed value of 0x00000001". This PRNG MUST first be initialized with a 32-bit unsigned integer, used as a seed. The following function is used to this purpose: void tinymt32_init (tinymt32_t * s, uint32_t seed); This seems to imply that the C code is going to be a normative part of the specification. Is that intended? Section 3.5 When DT is between 0 (minimum value) and strictly inferior to 15, the average probability of having a non zero coefficient equals (DT +1) / 16. nit: "between 0 (the minimum value) and 14" nit: "DT + 1" With the RLC over GF(2) FEC Scheme (Section 5), m MUST be equal to 1. With RLC over GF(2^^8) FEC Scheme (Section 4), m MUST be equal to 8. I think "is equal to" is more appropriate than "MUST be equal to", here -- it's just a statement of fact. * (in) repair_key key associated to this repair symbol. This * parameter is ignored (useless) if m=2 and dt=15 'm' of 2 is not defined in this document. I assume this is supposed to be "the GF(2) case", i.e., m == 1. * (out) returns an error code What value indicates success? The tinymt usage here is "fragile" in a sense that I would not like if I was performing a code review on this code, namely which successive invocation gets used for which output coefficient depends on previous tinymt output values. That said, the scheme is deterministic (modulo Ekr's Discuss points), which is the only feature needed for interoperability. It looks like this tinymt_init() implementation probably generates and discards enough output to get past the initial highly correlated stage, though I'd appreciate if that was explictily confirmed. Section 4.1.1.2 When SDP is used to communicate the FFCI, this FEC Scheme-specific information is carried in the 'fssi' parameter in textual representation as specified in [RFC6364]. For instance: fssi=E:1400 I think you should explicitly say that this uses the "name" of "E" for the SDP encoding. If another mechanism requires the FSSI to be carried as an opaque octet string (for instance, after a Base64 encoding), the encoding Wouldn't this be *prior to* Base64 encoding, not after? Encoding symbol length (E): 16-bit field. Generally we still say "encoded in network byte order (big-endian)" for 16-bit integer fields. Section 4.1.3 How does an encoder select repair_key values to put in repair payload IDs? (I guess Section 6.1 kind-of covers this but does not explicitly say that it's an arbitrary choice.) Section 5.1.3 Leaving the encoder the option of setting an arbitrary repair_key for DT==15 leaves open the possibility of a covert channel and the corresponding privacy considerations. Usually we just say "MUST set to zero on transmission and ignore on receipt" for this sort of thing. Section 8 The FEC Framework document [RFC6363] provides a comprehensive analysis of security considerations applicable to FEC Schemes. I would suggest going with "fairly comprehensive" or similarly couched language; as my review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-fecframe-ext indicates, it is not a fully comprehensive analysis. Section 8.2 o FEC Encoding ID: changing this parameter leads a receiver to consider a different FEC Scheme. The consequences are severe, the format of the Explicit Source FEC Payload ID and Repair FEC Payload ID of received packets will probably differ, leading to various malfunctions. Even if the original and modified FEC Schemes share the same format, FEC decoding will either fail or lead to corrupted decoded symbols. This will happen if an attacker turns value YYYY (i.e., RLC over GF(2)) to value XXXX (RLC over GF(2^^8)), an additional consequence being a higher processing overhead at the receiver. In any case, the attack results in a form of Denial of Service (DoS); I think this could lead to undetected data corruption, which is worse than DoS. Similarly for the next bullet point. Section 8.4 I found where RFC 6363 Section 9 claims that the following subsections will define a mandatory-to-implement security scheme, but not where IPsec/ESP was actually specified as such. Can you give me a pointer? Section 8.5 As with all random matrix algorithms, there is some chance that the indicated scheme will produce poorly conditioned matrices (i.e., less than full rank) for the decoder to process. The coefficient generation scheme seems to be deterministic and dependent only on the repair_key and DT values for a given encoding window, so in principle an attacker could precompute which inputs would produce singular linear systems under given packet loss conditions. That said, an attacker able to modify the transmitted repair_key, DT, and NSS values can affect the system in more disruptive ways already, so this sort of attack probably doesn't need to be mentioned here. Section 9 [same comment about "comprehensive" as for section 8] Section 9.2 Note that using a density threshold equal to 15 with RLC over GF(2) is equivalent to using an XOR code that compute the XOR sum of all the source symbols in the encoding window. In that case: (1) a single repair symbol can be produced for any encoding window, and (2) I think this may be more clear as "only a single repair symbol can be produced". (Also another occurrence earlier in the document?) Appendix A (As Ekr notes, the floating-point mode is not specified, so there are several multiplications/divisions that are not deterministic.) Appendix B Finally, it is worth noting that a good receiver, i.e., a receiver that benefits from an FEC protection significantly higher than what is required to recover from packet losses, can choose to reduce the ls_max_size. In that case lost ADUs will be recovered without relying on this optimization. nit: I'd use a different phrase than "good receiver", as the relevant property is of the network path to the receiver and not its (implementation or other) quality. Perhaps, "a receiver that does not experience much packet loss". |
2018-10-10
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09 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk |
2018-10-10
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09 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot comment] I support Mirja's discuss, and extend it to mention that the inclusion of license language other than that in the Trust Legal Provisions … [Ballot comment] I support Mirja's discuss, and extend it to mention that the inclusion of license language other than that in the Trust Legal Provisions (see the copyright notice boilerplate) is generally not allowed in RFCs. I agree with Ekr's discuss point and Adam's comments about the normative reference for the TinyMT32 PRNG. I hope the answer is not that the code in Appendix A is normative; as Adam mentioned we've learned from experience (RFC 6716) that normative code is sub-optimal for the IETF standards process as it stands today. |
2018-10-10
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09 | Ben Campbell | Ballot comment text updated for Ben Campbell |
2018-10-10
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09 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot comment] I support Mirja's discuss, and extend it to mention that the inclusion of license language other than that in the Trust Legal Provisions … [Ballot comment] I support Mirja's discuss, and extend it to mention that the inclusion of license language other than that in the Trust Legal Provisions (see the copyright notice boilerplate) is generally not allowed in RFCs. I agree with Ekr's and Adam's comments about the normative reference for the TinyMT32 PRNG. I hope the answer is not that the code in Appendix A is normative; as Adam mentioned we've learned from experience (RFC 6716) that normative code is sub-optimal for the IETF standards process as it stands today. |
2018-10-10
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09 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ben Campbell |
2018-10-10
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09 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2018-10-10
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09 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot discuss] I'm really not an expert on legal questions and get easily confused myself but I think just copying in the code including the … [Ballot discuss] I'm really not an expert on legal questions and get easily confused myself but I think just copying in the code including the copyright into the draft appendix leads to conflicting copyright statements, as the all content of the draft has the following copyright: Copyright (c) 2018 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the document authors. All rights reserved. And the code says this: * Copyright (c) 2011, 2013 Mutsuo Saito, Makoto Matsumoto, * Hiroshima University and The University of Tokyo. * All rights reserved. |
2018-10-10
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09 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind |
2018-10-09
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09 | Adam Roach | [Ballot comment] I support Eric Rescorla's DISCUSS, in particular the portion dealing with being clear about which instance of the TinyMT32 PNRG is normative. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- … [Ballot comment] I support Eric Rescorla's DISCUSS, in particular the portion dealing with being clear about which instance of the TinyMT32 PNRG is normative. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §1.2: > The RLC codes belong to the broad class of sliding window AL-FEC Nit: "...sliding-window..." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §3.1.1: > For the FEC Schemes > specified in this document, in line with [Roca17], the ew_max_size > SHOULD be computed with: > > ew_max_size = dw_max_size * 0.75 ... > A receiver can then > easily compute dw_max_size: > > dw_max_size = max_NSS_observed / 0.75 Since the computation of ew_max_size is only "SHOULD" rather than "MUST," it seems that the sender and receiver can end up with different notions of ew_max_size. This raises two questions: (1) is such a situation harmful? and (2) are there valid reasons a sender would compute ew_max_size differently than the formula above? If the answer to (1) is "yes" or the answer to (2) is "no", then I think the "SHOULD" quoted above needs to be a "MUST." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §3.3: > new ADU arrives, once the ADU to source symbols mapping has been "...ADU-to-source-symbols..." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §3.5: > When DT is between 0 (minimum > value) and strictly inferior to 15, the average probability of having > a non zero coefficient equals (DT +1) / 16. This language ("strictly inferior to 15") seems odd, as the statement holds true for DT=15 as well. > These considerations apply both the RLC over GF(2) and RLC over Nit: "...apply to both..." > Figure 2: Coding Coefficients Generation Function pseudo-code It seems a bit odd to call this "pseudocode": except of a handful of missing definitions (stdint.h, string.h, tinymt32_t, tinymt32_rand, tinymt32_init, and the success/error return codes), it is syntactically valid C that compiles just fine. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §3.6.2: "...and + is an XOR operation." This is confusing. I understand that this is being done in an attempt to simulate the "⊕" symbol in a document that is limited to ASCII, but the use of "+" in a mathematical context is so well established that its use to mean something different than addition runs the risk of implementor confusion. Since this document uses "^^" for exponentiation, it would appear that the symbol "^" remains available for XOR. This is consistent with the use of C in multiple places in the document. Alternatively, for complete avoidance of doubt, the computation of the repair buffer could be denoted with: repair[i] = cc_tab[0] * src_0[i] XOR cc_tab[1] * src_1[i] XOR ... XOR cc_tab[ew_size - 1] * src_ew_size_1[i] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §6.1: > and several approaches exist that are implementation specific. Nit: "...implementation-specific." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §6.2: I agree and reiterate Eric Rescorla's concerns regarding this section. While I understand that it is somewhat beyond the remit of this document to provide tutorial information about theories of solving high-order systems of linear equations, references to related materials would seem to be in order, as such information is normatively required to implement this specification. If an exemplary algorithm can be provided for solving the specific systems described in this document, that would be even better (I understand that might not be practical). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Appendix A: Presuming the code in this appendix is intended to be normative, it needs to normatively cite the formal language it uses. In this case, that would be C99 or newer, as prior to C99, initial declarations in for loops were not allowed. I believe the citation you want is ISO/IEC 9899:1999 (or something newer, such as ISO/IEC 9899:2011) Additionally, if the code in this appendix could also be described in prose, it would make it more accessible (e.g., for non-C implementations) and more maintainable. One of the lessons learned from publishing normative code as part of RFC 6716 is that it is clearer and more maintainable to publish normative prose accompanied by a non-normative reference implementation. See, e.g., the discussion thread at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/SSdqF3q96WaLsSuYcjmgzLg32S8 I will further note that this arrangement should address the portability issues that Eric Rescorla has identified in his discuss, as normative prose will presumably not be subject to portability concerns. |
2018-10-09
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09 | Adam Roach | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adam Roach |
2018-10-09
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09 | Suresh Krishnan | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan |
2018-10-09
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09 | Eric Rescorla | [Ballot discuss] Rich version of this review at: https://mozphab-ietf.devsvcdev.mozaws.net/D3423 I do not believe that this specification is sufficiently precise to be interoperably implemented. DETAIL S … [Ballot discuss] Rich version of this review at: https://mozphab-ietf.devsvcdev.mozaws.net/D3423 I do not believe that this specification is sufficiently precise to be interoperably implemented. DETAIL S 3.4. > value, in addition to the maximum FEC-related latency budget > (Section 3.1). > > 3.4. Pseudo-Random Number Generator (PRNG) > > The RLC FEC Schemes defined in this document rely on the TinyMT32 What is the normative reference here? We can't really plausibly normatively reference a github link without even a version hash. Is the code in the appendix the normative description of the algorithm. S 3.5. > These considerations apply both the RLC over GF(2) and RLC over > GF(2^^8), the only difference being the value of the m parameter. > With the RLC over GF(2) FEC Scheme (Section 5), m MUST be equal to 1. > With RLC over GF(2^^8) FEC Scheme (Section 4), m MUST be equal to 8. > >
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2018-10-09
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09 | Eric Rescorla | [Ballot comment] S 3.4. > RLC FEC Schemes defined in this document, the following parameter set > MUST be used: > … [Ballot comment] S 3.4. > RLC FEC Schemes defined in this document, the following parameter set > MUST be used: > > o mat1 = 0x8f7011ee = 2406486510; > o mat2 = 0xfc78ff1f = 4235788063; > o tmat = 0x3793fdff = 932445695. What is the significance of the semicolons versus periods? S 3.5. > * provided with the appropriate number of coding coefficients to > * use for the repair symbol key provided. > * > * (in) repair_key key associated to this repair symbol. This > * parameter is ignored (useless) if m=2 and dt=15 > * (in) cc_tab[] pointer to a table of the right size to store This is not just in, because you are writing it. It is rather in/out. S 3.5. > if (tinymt32_rand(&s, 16) <= dt) { > cc_tab[i] = (uint8_t) 1; > } else { > cc_tab[i] = (uint8_t) 0; > } > } This code can be simplified either by using the ternary operator, as in: ``` cc_tab[i] = tinymt32_rand(&s, 16) <= dt) ? 1 : 0; ``` Actually, you could just do: ``` cc_tab[i] = tinymt32_rand(&s, 16) <= dt); ``` Because C guarantees that comparison operators produce 1 for true and 0 for false. S 3.5. > do { > cc_tab[i] = (uint8_t) tinymt32_rand(&s, 256); > } while (cc_tab[i] == 0); > } > } else { > /* here a certain fraction of coefficients should be 0 */ It's not a certain fraction, it's just a certain probability. S 12.2. > * Erlang", ACM 11th SIGPLAN Erlang Workshop (Erlang'12), > * September, 2012. > */ > #define TINYMT32_MAT1_PARAM 0x8f7011ee > #define TINYMT32_MAT2_PARAM 0xfc78ff1f > #define TINYMT32_TMAT_PARAM 0x3793fdff Is there a reason not to have these be const uint32_t? S 12.2. > s->status[0] = seed; > s->status[1] = s->mat1 = TINYMT32_MAT1_PARAM; > s->status[2] = s->mat2 = TINYMT32_MAT2_PARAM; > s->status[3] = s->tmat = TINYMT32_TMAT_PARAM; > for (int i = 1; i < MIN_LOOP; i++) { > s->status[i & 3] ^= i + UINT32_C(1812433253) This constant should not be int he code like this. S 12.2. > /** > * This function outputs an integer in the [0 .. maxv-1] range. > * @param s pointer to tinymt internal state. > * @return 32-bit unsigned integer between 0 and maxv-1 inclusive. > */ > uint32_t tinymt32_rand (tinymt32_t * s, uint32_t maxv) This casting is extremely scary. Are you sure that this code is portably deterministic? |
2018-10-09
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09 | Eric Rescorla | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Eric Rescorla |
2018-10-08
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09 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2018-10-01
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09 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2018-10-01
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09 | Amy Vezza | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2018-10-11 |
2018-10-01
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09 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot comment] There's an extra "n" in "reasonnable bounds". |
2018-10-01
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09 | Spencer Dawkins | Ballot comment text updated for Spencer Dawkins |
2018-10-01
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09 | Spencer Dawkins | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup |
2018-10-01
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09 | Spencer Dawkins | Ballot has been issued |
2018-10-01
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09 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2018-10-01
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09 | Spencer Dawkins | Created "Approve" ballot |
2018-10-01
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09 | Spencer Dawkins | Ballot writeup was changed |
2018-09-24
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09 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2018-09-21
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09 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Carlos Martinez |
2018-09-21
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09 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Carlos Martinez |
2018-09-20
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09 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Alan DeKok. |
2018-09-19
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09 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-09.txt |
2018-09-19
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09 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-09-19
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09 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-09-19
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09 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-09-19
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08 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2018-09-19
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08 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-08.txt |
2018-09-19
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08 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-09-19
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08 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-09-19
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08 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-09-17
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07 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2018-09-17
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07 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-07. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-07. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the FEC Framework (FECFRAME) FEC Encoding IDs registry on the Reliable Multicast Transport (RMT) FEC Encoding IDs and FEC Instance IDs registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/rmt-fec-parameters/ two new registrations will be made as follows: Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Sliding Window Random Linear Codes (RLC) over GF(2) FEC Scheme for Arbitrary Packet Flows Refernce: Secction 5 of [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Sliding Window Random Linear Codes (RLC) over GF(2^^8) FEC Scheme for Arbitrary Packet Flows Refernce: Secction 4 of [ RFC-to-be ] The IANA Functions Operator understands that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal Senior IANA Services Specialist |
2018-09-14
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07 | Russ Housley | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Almost Ready. Reviewer: Russ Housley. Sent review to list. |
2018-09-13
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07 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Russ Housley |
2018-09-13
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07 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Russ Housley |
2018-09-12
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07 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Alan DeKok |
2018-09-12
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07 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Alan DeKok |
2018-09-10
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07 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2018-09-10
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07 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2018-09-24): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: tsvwg@ietf.org, draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme@ietf.org, wes@mti-systems.com, Wesley Eddy , … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2018-09-24): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: tsvwg@ietf.org, draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme@ietf.org, wes@mti-systems.com, Wesley Eddy , tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org, David Black , spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Sliding Window Random Linear Code (RLC) Forward Erasure Correction (FEC) Schemes for FECFRAME) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Transport Area Working Group WG (tsvwg) to consider the following document: - 'Sliding Window Random Linear Code (RLC) Forward Erasure Correction (FEC) Schemes for FECFRAME' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2018-09-24. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document describes two fully-specified Forward Erasure Correction (FEC) Schemes for Sliding Window Random Linear Codes (RLC), one for RLC over the Galois Field (A.K.A. Finite Field) GF(2), a second one for RLC over the Galois Field GF(2^^8), each time with the possibility of controlling the code density. They can protect arbitrary media streams along the lines defined by FECFRAME extended to sliding window FEC codes, as defined in [fecframe-ext]. These sliding window FEC codes rely on an encoding window that slides over the source symbols, generating new repair symbols whenever needed. Compared to block FEC codes, these sliding window FEC codes offer key advantages with real-time flows in terms of reduced FEC- related latency while often providing improved packet erasure recovery capabilities. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2018-09-10
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07 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2018-09-07
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07 | Spencer Dawkins | Last call was requested |
2018-09-07
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07 | Spencer Dawkins | Ballot approval text was generated |
2018-09-07
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07 | Spencer Dawkins | Ballot writeup was generated |
2018-09-07
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07 | Spencer Dawkins | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2018-09-07
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07 | Spencer Dawkins | Last call announcement was changed |
2018-09-07
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07 | Spencer Dawkins | Last call announcement was generated |
2018-09-07
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07 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2018-09-07
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07 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-07.txt |
2018-09-07
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07 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-09-07
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-09-07
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07 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-09-02
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06 | Spencer Dawkins | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation |
2018-08-01
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06 | Spencer Dawkins | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2018-08-01
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06 | Wesley Eddy | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated … As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? It is intended for Proposed Standard, and Standards Track is indicated in the header. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document describes two fully-specified Forward Erasure Correction (FEC) Schemes for Sliding Window Random Linear Codes (RLC), one for RLC over GF(2) (binary case), a second one for RLC over GF(2^^8), with the possibility of controlling the code density. They can protect arbitrary media streams along the lines defined by FECFRAME extended to sliding window FEC codes. These sliding window FEC codes rely on an encoding window that slides over the source symbols, generating new repair symbols whenever needed. Compared to block FEC codes, these sliding window FEC codes offer key advantages with real-time flows in terms of reduced FEC-related latency while often providing improved packet erasure recovery capabilities. Working Group Summary This document is a companion to draft-ietf-tsvwg-fecframe-ext, which is an update to the FECFRAME work in RFC 6363. RFC 6363 was a product of the former FECFRAME working group, which closed several years ago. FECFRAME was in the TSV area. When several original FECFRAME participants proposed updates/extensions to support new types of codes (with benefits for some real world applications), between the Area Directors and the TSVWG, it was agreed that the work should be done in TSVWG, and two documents including this one were adopted. Several FECFRAME participants are either authors/editors listed on the documents, or participated in reviews. Other than this history, there were no other significant issues or events of interest in the working group process on this document. Document Quality There have been implementations. The implementations were reported to the working group, and the documents benefited from the implementation and testing experience. Personnel The document shepherd is Wesley Eddy (wes@mti-systems.com), and the responsible AD is Spencer Dawkins. (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. The document has been fully reviewed, and is ready for publication. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No concerns. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. N/A. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. No concerns. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Yes, both authors have confirmed that no IPR disclosures need to be made from their institute. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No IPR disclosures apply to this document. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The subset of the working group that is interested in FECFRAME seems to have consensus on the document. The document has also been a topic of discussion in the IRTF Network Coding Research Group since this is a FEC technology, and there does not appear to be any contention there. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) N/A. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. There are no actual idnits errors or issues. There are a few spurious idnits notes/warnings, that are related to code lines in the document, rather than actual text. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No. All normative references are Proposed Standard or BCP. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. N/A (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. N/A (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). The IANA considerations are complete. Two new values are requested from an existing registry. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. N/A (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. N/A - There are some snippets of C code, but I did not extract or compile it (it is not a self-contained program, and is for example / informational reference, rather than normative text in the standard). |
2018-08-01
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06 | Wesley Eddy | Responsible AD changed to Spencer Dawkins |
2018-08-01
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06 | Wesley Eddy | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2018-08-01
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06 | Wesley Eddy | IESG state changed to Publication Requested |
2018-08-01
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06 | Wesley Eddy | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2018-08-01
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06 | Wesley Eddy | Tag Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway cleared. |
2018-08-01
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06 | Wesley Eddy | Changed document writeup |
2018-07-25
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06 | Wesley Eddy | Changed document writeup |
2018-07-25
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06 | Wesley Eddy | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2018-07-25
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06 | Wesley Eddy | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2018-07-25
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06 | Wesley Eddy | Tag Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway set. |
2018-07-25
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06 | Wesley Eddy | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2018-07-25
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06 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-06.txt |
2018-07-25
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06 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-07-25
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06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-07-25
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06 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-07-19
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05 | David Black | Added to session: IETF-102: tsvwg Thu-1550 |
2018-05-24
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05 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-05.txt |
2018-05-24
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05 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-05-24
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-05-24
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05 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-05-17
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04 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-04.txt |
2018-05-17
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04 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-05-17
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-05-17
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04 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-05-15
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03 | Wesley Eddy | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2018-05-07
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03 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-03.txt |
2018-05-07
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03 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-05-07
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-05-07
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03 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-03-21
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02 | Gorry Fairhurst | Removed from session: IETF-101: tsvwg Thu-1550 |
2018-03-21
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02 | Gorry Fairhurst | Added to session: IETF-101: tsvwg Thu-1810 |
2018-03-07
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02 | Gorry Fairhurst | Added to session: IETF-101: tsvwg Thu-1550 |
2018-03-05
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02 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-02.txt |
2018-03-05
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-03-05
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , Belkacem Teibi |
2018-03-05
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02 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2018-02-16
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01 | David Black | Notification list changed to David Black <david.black@dell.com>, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> from David Black <david.black@dell.com> |
2018-02-16
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01 | David Black | Document shepherd changed to Wesley Eddy |
2017-10-27
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01 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-01.txt |
2017-10-27
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01 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-10-27
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Vincent Roca , tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org |
2017-10-27
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01 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |
2017-07-20
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00 | David Black | Notification list changed to David Black <david.black@dell.com> |
2017-07-20
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00 | David Black | Document shepherd changed to David L. Black |
2017-07-18
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00 | David Black | Added to session: IETF-99: tsvwg Thu-1810 |
2017-07-17
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00 | Wesley Eddy | This document now replaces draft-roca-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme instead of None |
2017-07-17
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00 | Vincent Roca | New version available: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme-00.txt |
2017-07-17
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00 | (System) | WG -00 approved |
2017-07-17
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00 | Vincent Roca | Set submitter to "Vincent Roca ", replaces to draft-roca-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme and sent approval email to group chairs: tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org |
2017-07-17
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00 | Vincent Roca | Uploaded new revision |