Minutes interim-2023-iab-03: Wed 15:00
minutes-interim-2023-iab-03-202302011500-00

Minutes of the 2023-02-01 IAB Business Meeting


1. Administrivia

1.1. Attendance 

Present: 

 Jari Arkko
 Deborah Brungard 
 Lars Eggert (IETF Chair)
 Liz Flynn (IETF Secretariat)
 Wes Hardaker 
 Cullen Jennings
 Mirja Kühlewind (IAB Chair)
 Warren Kumari (IESG Liaison)
 Zhenbin Li 
 Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
 Karen O'Donoghue (ISOC Liaison)
 Tommy Pauly 
 Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
 David Schinazi
 Jiankang Yao 

Regrets:

 Mallory Knodel 
 Russ White 
 Greg Wood (IETF Director of Communications and Operations)
 Qin Wu 

Observers:

 Mark McFadden



1.2. Agenda bash and announcements 

  A discussion of A Vision Statement for the Internet had been
  planned but will be deferred to a later date. 

  Cindy Morgan reminded the IAB that the IETF 116 BOF coordination
  call is scheduled for later today.


1.3. Meeting Minutes 

The following meeting minutes remain under review:

  • 2023-01-11 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-01-11) 


1.4. Action Item Review 

Done:

  • 2023-01-25: Cindy Morgan to send an e-vote on draft-iab-
    protocol-maintenance for the people who were not able to vote
    during the IAB meeting.

  • 2023-01-25: Cindy Morgan to send an e-vote on the IESG slate
    for the people who were not able to vote during the IAB meeting.

On Hold: 

  • 2021-11-17: Mirja Kühlewind and Cindy Morgan to put together
    some options for the IAB Website revamp for the IAB to review. 
    (Work progressing in the background)
 
In Progress:

  • 2022-07-24: Mallory Knodel and Mirja Kühlewind to draft a 
    document outlining the architectural principles that the IAB 
    thinks are important and need to be understood when considering 
    Internet governance. 	
     
  • 2022-11-06: Jari Arkko to update draft-arkko-iab-data-
    minimization-principle based on the IAB discussion at IETF 115.

  • 2022-12-07: Cindy Morgan to send a message to arch-d list 
    about possible adoption of draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-
    principle once Jari Arkko updates the document and confirms 
    that the message is ready to go.

  • 2022-12-07: Cindy Morgan to send draft-iab-path-signals-
    collaboration to the RFC Editor pending a new revision from the
    authors.	

  • 2022-11-23: Liaison Coordinators to add information about 
    potential candidates to reach out to for future IAB-appointed 
    positions to the private IAB wiki.

  • 2023-01-25: Cullen Jennings to set up a technical discussion 
    on end-to-end encryption and user identity management.

  • 2023-01-25: Cindy Morgan to invite the ISOC BOT incumbent to 
    IAB meeting on 2023-02-01. 

  • 2023-01-25: Mallory Knodel and Jari Arkko to follow up with 
    Mark Nottingham about the IAB's discussion of draft-nottingham-
    avoiding-Internet-centralization. 

New: 

  • 2023-02-01: David Schinazi to confirm with Martin Thomson that 
    he is okay with adding a note to the "IAB Members at Time of 
    Approval" section of draft-iab-protocol-maintenance that concerns 
    were expressed in the IETF community about how broadly it applies 
    in all situations.

  • 2023-02-01: Colin Perkins to confirm whether GAIA chairs are 
    available for a review at IETF 116.

  • 2023-02-01: Cindy Morgan to set up agenda wiki pages for IETF 
    116.




1.5. IAB Document Status Update

  Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/stream/iab/

    • draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-principle-03
      I-D Exists, IAB stream 
      IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind
		
    • draft-iab-path-signals-collaboration-02
      Approved by IAB, To Be Sent to RFC Editor: Informational 
      IAB Shepherd: N/A

    • draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-11
      IAB Review: Informational	
      IAB Shepherd: Tommy Pauly	

  The IAB had a discussion about how to proceed with announcing     
  and publishing this document because it was approved, but not 
  unanimously. The IAB decided that the following note should be 
  added to the "IAB Members at Time of Approval" section of the 
  document: "The document had broad but not unanimous approval 
  with the IAB, reflecting that while the guidance is valid,  
  concerns were expressed in the IETF community about how broadly 
  it applies in all situations." 


    • draft-iab-privacy-partitioning-00
      Active IAB Document
      IAB Shepherd: David Schinazi 


    • draft-iab-ws-environmental-impacts-report-00 
      Active IAB Document
      IAB Shepherd: Wes Hardaker


1.6. WG Chartering in Progress (Initial Charters Only)

  Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/chartering/	

    • More Instant Messaging Interoperability (MIMI)	
      External Review (Initial Chartering)
      IESG Telechat: 2023-02-02
      IAB Reviewer: David Schinazi

    • Secure Asset Transfer Protocol (SATP)
      External Review (Initial Chartering)
      IESG Telechat: 2023-02-02
      IAB Reviewer: Tommy Pauly

    • Time Variant Routing (TVR)
      Internal Review (Initial Chartering)
      IESG Telechat: 2023-02-02
      IAB Reviewer: Russ White 


2. A Vision Statement for the Internet 

  This discussion was deferred to a later date.


3. IAB at IETF 116 

  Cindy Morgan reminded the IAB that the IAB and IESG need to 
  decide the order of meetings on the Sunday of IETF 116. 
  Discussion will take place with both groups over email. Cindy 
  Morgan will create wiki pages to collect discussion topics for 
  IAB meetings at IETF 116.

  Colin Perkins will check with the GAIA chairs to see if they are
  available for an RG review during IETF 116.

  Wes Hardaker volunteered to co-chair the IAB Open session during 
  IETF 116.

4. Next IAB Meeting

  The next IAB meeting will be on 2023-02-08 at 0700 PST.