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RFC SERIES OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE (RSOC) May 17, 2021 RSOC Meeting Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- - Sarah Banks - Jay Daley (IETF LLC Board Liaison, non-voting) - Liz Flynn (Scribe, non-voting) - Tony Hansen - Cullen Jennings (IAB Lead) - John Levine, (Temporary RFC Series Project Manager, non-voting) - Adam Roach - David Schinazi - Peter Saint-Andre (RSOC Chair) ACTION ITEM REVIEW --------------------------------- Done: - 2021-03-15: John Levine and Jay Daley to draft a statement of work for the RPC contract. (NOTE: May be overtaken by action item below.) - 2021-04-19: Jay Daley and Peter Saint-Andre to draft a proposal on extending the current RPC contract and send it to the IAB and LLC for review before potentially sending it out to the community for comments. * Deadline: 2021-05 In Progress: - 2020-09-21: Jay Daley, John Levine, Henrik Levkowetz, Peter Saint- Andre, and Robert Sparks to work with Sandy Ginoza to propose a minimum profile of v3 XML tags that the RPC would add before publication of an RFC if they were not included by the authors. * Deadline: 2021-06 (Deadline has been changed from 2021-05) - 2021-01-26: John Levine to start a discussion with the community about whether the XML of an RFC can be changed as long as the text remains immutable. (NOTE: Depends on action item for "RFC XML and Style Guide change management team," above." * Deadline: 2021-06 - 2021-03-15: John Levine and Peter Saint-Andre to discuss the prioritization and time commitment needed to put together an end-to- end analysis to ensure that v3 XML can be used effectively and seamlessly at all stages of the authoring process (Recommendation 8), and report back to the RSOC. * Deadline 2021-05 - 2021-04-19: Peter Saint-Andre to start a thread on the RSOC list about updating the list of "Current Activities" on the RSOC web page. * Deadline: 2021-05 New: - 2021-05-17 : Peter Saint-Andre, Jay Daley, and John Levine to chat with the RPC and recent authors about their perspectives on the GitHub experiment, and report back to RSOC. * Deadline: 2021-06 MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia The minutes of the 2021-04-19 ROSC meeting were approved. 2. RFC XML and Style Guide change management team Peter Saint-Andre reported that the RFC XML and Style Guide change management team is meeting regularly and continues to work though the backlog, although due to some May holidays the work will likely not be finished until mid-June. The deadline for this action item has been pushed to June. After the backlog is complete they will look at starting to update RFC 7991bis. Because the change management team was not intended to be a permanent group, after 7991bis has been updated, the RSOC can look for a different way to manage things going forward. 3. v3 Issues and Tools John Levine reported that he has started work on these updates and will push this work ahead during the month. 4. Recommendations Following From the I-D Authors Survey Peter Saint-Andre suggested that RSOC obtain some more information about how people use certain tools and find out more detail. Jay Daley reported that he is developing a spreadsheet and/or wiki that authors will be able to update with information about tools they use, such as how it is licensed, who maintains it, etc. Cullen Jennings noted that a lot of the problems people have are not because they don't have enough information, but because there is a lot of old and outdated information that's confusing. Jay Daley agreed and reported that part of his plan is to sort through old and archived information in various places and condense all of it into correct and up-to-date information that can all live in one place. Sarah Banks replied that this would be a good opportunity to work with the education team or another group who can help develop a resource to walk someone who's new to the IETF through the process of authoring a draft. It's currently very confusing and information is hard to find. Cullen Jennings also noted that his recent experience with the GitHub experiment was very successful. Others who worked on the recent QUIC documents will also have good perspective to share. * Action item: Peter Saint-Andre, Jay Daley, and John Levine to chat with the RPC and recent authors about their perspectives on the GitHub experiment, and report back to RSOC. - Deadline: 2021-06. 5. Current Activities on RSOC Web Page Peter Saint-Andre reported that he and Cindy Morgan will work together to update the page by the end of this week, pending any further comments by RSOC members. 6. AOB Jay Daley gave a brief overview of three tools related RFPs that are currently live. One is to move all Trac wikis to a new instance of wiki.js, another is for a redevelopment of the bibXML generators, and a third is to migrate many Trac and Subversion instances for tools development (Datatracker, xml2rfc, Mailarchive, etc) to GitHub. 7. Next RSOC Meeting The next RSOC meeting is scheduled for Monday, June 21 at 4:00 PM PDT.