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Last updated 2022-06-10

December 13, 2021 RSOC Meeting

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

 Jay Daley (IETF LLC Board Liaison, non-voting)
 Tony Hansen 
 Cullen Jennings (IAB Lead)
 John Levine, (Temporary RFC Series Project Manager, non-voting)
 Cindy Morgan (Scribe, non-voting)
 David Schinazi 
 Peter Saint-Andre (RSOC Chair) 

 Sarah Banks 
 Adam Roach

 Sandy Ginoza (RFC Production Center)


  - 2021-10-18: RSOC agrees that once 7991bis is stable, a script will 
    be used to fix the XML on documents that do not conform to RFC 7991, 
    and the documents will be re-rendered. After the documents are re-
    rendered, they will be checked to confirm that the text did not 

  - 2020 Decisions: 

  - 2019 Decisions: 


In Progress:

  - 2021-10-18: John Levine to update draft-iab-rfc7991bis with help 
    from Peter Saint-Andre.
   * Deadline 2022-01

  - 2021-11-16: Jay Daley to complete a website ( with 
    information on how to write an I-D and the tools available to 
    support this (Recommendation 8).
   * Deadline 2022-01


1. Administrivia

  The minutes of the 2021-11-15 RSOC meeting were approved.

2. v3 Issues and Tools

  John Levine reported that he is working on updates to draft-iab-
  rfc7991bis; because it involves a lot of copying and pasting from the 
  XML documentation, it is fairly labor-intensive. Peter Saint-Andre 
  volunteered to review the changes.

  Jay Daley noted that the RFC XML and Style Guide change management 
  team is looking at the XML processing instructions that were in the v2 
  grammar to see if any of them can be deprecated.

  Tony Hansen said that the processing instructions in v2 were 
  documented at

  Jay Daley reported that the RFC XML and Style Guide change management
  team is also looking at the use of predefined entities in XML files; a
  number of the XML templates include such entities in their DOCTYPE
  declarations and the team is investigating which entities are in
  active use.

3. Recommendations Following From the I-D Authors Survey

  Jay Daley reported that the site has been sent around 
  for preliminary review. The site provides authors with documentation 
  about how to choose their format and tools, as well as templates and 
  schemas. After consulting with Lars Eggert, Jay has started 
  incorporating content from the "Guidelines for I-D authors" into

  Jay Daley said that once the site is up and running, 
  it would be good to have community ownership of the content.

4. RFC-Futures Update 

  Peter Saint-Andre reported that draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-07 was 
  posted to address the comments that were received during the Program 
  Last Call. The document still needs to go through community review and 
  the IAB approval process.

  Jay Daley reported that he has started to put together the selection 
  committee that will make a recommendation to the IETF LLC about the 
  RSCE role. He also has a recruitment agency ready to go once the 
  process is ready to be started.

5. AOB

  Peter Saint-Andre suggested adding an item to the next RSOC agenda to 
  discuss transition planning, since RSOC will disband once the RFC 
  Editor Model v3 is in effect.

6. Next RSOC Meeting

  The next RSOC meeting will be on 2022-01-10 at 4:00 PM PST.

  Jay Daley and David Schinazi sent their regrets in advance for that