Minutes interim-2024-iab-02: Wed 15:00
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Minutes of the 2024-01-24 IAB Business Meeting


1. Administrivia

1.1. Attendance 

Present:

  Matthew Bocci (incoming IAB)
  Roman Danyliw (IESG Liaison)
  Dhruv Dhody
  Lars Eggert (IETF Chair)
  Liz Flynn (IETF Secretariat)
  Wes Hardaker 
  Cullen Jennings
  Mallory Knodel 
  Suresh Krishnan 
  Mirja Kühlewind (IAB Chair)
  Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
  Tommy Pauly 
  Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
  David Schinazi
  Sabrina Tanamal (IANA Liaison)
  Sally Wentworth (ISOC Liaison)
  Christopher Wood 
  Greg Wood (IETF Director of Communications and Operations)
  Qin Wu 
  Jiankang Yao 

  
Regrets:

  Alissa Cooper (incoming IAB)
  Alvaro Retana 


Guests: 

  Alexey Melnikov (CFRG Chair)
  Stanislav Smyshlyaev (CFRG Chair)
  Paul Wouters (SEC AD)


Observers:

  None


1.2. Agenda bash and announcements 

  Cindy Morgan reported that the iab.org website transfer is 
  almost complete and will be given to the Tools Team for 
  implementation next week.



1.3. Meeting Minutes 

The following meeting minutes were approved: 

  • 2024-01-10 business meeting - (draft submitted 2024-01-10) 



1.4. Action Item Review 

Done:

  • 2023-08-23: Suresh Krishnan to draft a blog post about the 
    E-Impact Program.

  • 2024-01-10: Cindy Morgan to send email about redirecting the public
    IAB Mediawiki to Wikijs.
    - Currently waiting for Tools Team to implement redirects.


On Hold:

  • 2023-05-11: Suresh Krishnan et al to write a draft on limited
    domains. (Check back end of June 2023)

  • 2023-06-07: Dhruv Dhody and Mallory Knodel to track adding IAB
    review of proposed WG charters to the Datatracker.
    See https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/issues/5849


In Progress:

  • 2022-07-24: Mallory Knodel and Mirja Kühlewind to draft a document
    outlining the architectural principles that the IAB thinks are
    important and need to be understood when considering Internet
    governance.

  • 2023-05-11: Dhruv Dhody to look at the last ~10 years of IAB
    Workshops and see if there were any concrete outputs.

  • 2023-08-23: Suresh Krishnan to draft a blog post about the E-
    Impact Program.

  • 2023-11-07: Chris Wood, Tommy Pauly, and Wes Hardaker to work
    with Hannes Tschofenig on a response to the Confidential
    Computing Consortium's liaison statement in response to the
    IAB Statement on Attestation.

  • 2023-11-09: Mirja Kühlewind to reach out to legal regarding
    design teams and contributions.

New: 

  • 2024-01-24: Tommy Pauly/David Schinazi to follow up with the 
    people who submitted comments on draft-iab-privacy-partitioning.

  • 2024-01-24: Cindy Morgan to send an approval announcement for   
    draft-iab-privacy-partitioning once the authors confirm it is 
    ready to go.

  • 2024-01-24: Mallory Knodel to start a thread to set up a 
    technical discussion about upcoming UN consultations that 
    affect IETF technologies.

  • 2024-01-24: Cindy Morgan to send an e-vote on the ICANN 
    Technical Liaison Group appointment.


1.5. IAB Document Status Update

 Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/stream/iab/

   • draft-iab-privacy-partitioning-05
     Community Review ended 2023-11-03
     IAB Shepherd: David Schinazi

   • draft-iab-ws-environmental-impacts-report-03
     Sent to the RFC Editor: EDIT
     IAB Shepherd: Wes Hardaker

   • A Vision Statement for the Internet (Mallory, Mirja)



1.6. WG Chartering in Progress (Initial Charters Only)

 Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/chartering/	

  • Detecting Unwanted Location Trackers (dult)
    Area: SEC
    Draft Charter
    IESG Telechat: (None)
    IAB Reviewer: Not assigned

  • Multiformats (multi)
    Area: ART
    Internal Review
    IESG Telechat: (None)
    IAB Reviewer: Qin Wu

  • Network Management Operations (nmop)
    Area: OPS
    External Review
    IESG Telechat: (None)
    IAB Reviewer: Suresh Krishnan



2. Monthly Reports (Liaisons) 

2.1 IANA Liaison Report

--Begin IANA Liaison Report, Sabrina Tanamal --

  IANA Services Liaison Report – 24 January 2024
 

  SLA Deliverables Update:
 
  ICANN met 100% of processing goal times for the December 2023 
  monthly statistics report, exceeding the SLA goal to meet 90% of 
  processing goal times. These times include the steps that ICANN 
  has control over and not time it is waiting on requesters, 
  document authors or other experts. Monthly reports can be found at:
 
  https://www.iana.org/performance/ietf-statistics

--End IANA Liaison Report, Sabrina Tanamal–


2.2 IRTF Report

--Begin IRTF Chair Report, Colin Perkins--

  IRTF Chair report to the IAB for the month ending 2024-01-23

  Research Groups

  Chris Wood stepped down as PEARG co-chair; after discussion with 
  remaining chairs, no immediate plans to appoint a replacement. 
  HRPC rechartering ongoing.

  ANRP

  Reviews completed and six awards announced from 59 nominations. 
  Scheduling of award talks in progress.

  ANRW

  Ongoing discussion with ACM around budget and process. Planning 
  for ANRW 2024 is underway and call for papers should be 
  published shortly.

  Documents and Errata

  In RG Last Call:

  draft-irtf-nmrg-ai-challenges
  draft-irtf-coinrg-use-cases
  draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps
  draft-irtf-cfrg-dnhpke

  Waiting for IRTF Chair:

  draft-irtf-hrpc-association
    Revised I-D Needed

  In IESG Review:

  draft-irtf-hrpc-guidelines

  Sent to the RFC Editor:

  draft-irtf-icnrg-icnping
  draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv
  draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering
  draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge
  draft-irtf-qirg-quantum-internet-use-cases
  draft-irtf-cfrg-frost
  draft-irtf-icnrg-icntraceroute

  Other Activities

  Diversity travel grants for Brisbane allocated. Ongoing work on 
  IRTF code of conduct, proposed policy on fee waivers, and policy 
  on updating records.

--End IRTF Chair Report, Colin Perkins--


2.3 ICANN Liaison Report

--Begin ICANN Liaison Report, Harald Alvestrand --

  IETF Liaison report on ICANN, January 2024

  This is the status of ICANN as seen from the IETF liaison per 
  Jan 23, 2024.

  New gTLDs - SubPro
  This is about new top level domains - the “next round”, 
  following up on the 2012 round that let a thousand new gTLDs bloom…
  The implementation phase is rolling forward. Still a long way 
  from the release date, but prerequisites are getting addressed.
  Two important developments are the outcome on closed generics - 
  the work between GAC, GNSO and others to come up with an 
  agreement on how to define rules for registering new TLDs that 
  are both reserved for a single entity and constitue a generic 
  term ended in failure - the recommendation from the GAC, which 
  the board is still evaluating, is that this results in the 2012 
  round rule being unchanged - there will be no such TLDs 
  registered.

  Everyone’s still VERY uncertain what the demand will be this 
  time around - the “estimate used for planning” is the same size 
  as the 2012 round (2000ish applications), but the fact is that 
  nobody knows.

  Access to non-public registrant data - RDRS
  The ICANN-mediated mechanism for requesting access to non-public 
  domain name registrant data opened for service in November, and 
  the statistics for December have been published.
  Out of a total of a couple of thousand attempts to use the 
  system, the vast majority resulted in either the domain being 
  out of scope for the RDRS (such as ccTLDs or non-participant 
  registrars), filled out wrongly (as determined by the registrar, 
  not the RDRS), or denied for other reasons. A double-digit 
  number resulted in data being returned, and a somewhat larger 
  number hasn’t been answered yet.

  It’s hard to know what to make of this - some is testing, some 
  is unfamilarity with the system. Very few requesters have made 
  multiple valid requests, so not much experience is had.
  The numbers are still small; we should wait some more before 
  attempting to evaluate.

  DNS Abuse
  The process of getting contracts amended for registries and 
  registrars to take a somewhat more active role in combatting DNS 
  abuse are now final - voted on by the registries and registrars 
  (passing very demanding thresholds) and approved by the board 
  this month, they are now final, and will go into effect this 
  year. Hopefully this will bring some more clarity into what the 
  situation is for the stuff identified as “DNS Abuse”, and form 
  the basis of more proactive activities in the future.

  Administrativia: IRP panel, review processes
  ICANN’s accountability mechanisms (basically, decision appeals) 
  includes the Independent Reevaluation Panel - IRP. The ATRT3 
  recommendations, concluded in <when?>, recommended that there be 
  a permanent panel seated to hear this kind of appeal, instead of 
  ad-hoc getting panelists for each case. This is now completed, 
  and 12 permanent panelists have been selected.

  The topic of “how do we do reviews” is always hot in ICANN. The 
  bylaws mandate a number of recurring reviews; experience shows 
  that these reviews are sometimes disruptive, always a huge 
  amount of work, and have problems getting issues addressed.
  The suggestion of ATRT3 was to establish a “holistic review” 
  reviewing the whole of the organization. This requires a bylaws 
  change to do it right, but we don’t want to do that until we 
  know how it’s possible to make it work - so the idea of a “pilot 
  holistic review” was floated instead.
  Work on starting such a review is moving forward - some 
  community consultations have been concluded. Naturally, some 
  misgivings were raised - in particular about the review of the 
  structure of Supporting Organizations (SOs) and Advisory 
  Councils (ACs) and their relationships. We’re still some way 
  away from starting this in earnest.

  New ICANN CEO
  All I can say here is that the process is moving forward. The 
  board has been strictly instructed to say nothing about the 
  process except what’s in official public announcements.

  Conflicts of interest
  In several areas, board members may be caught in a conflict of 
  interest - because they are employed by or otherwise working for 
  organizations that have an intent to interact with the outcomes 
  of decisions made by the board.
  Two such areas of concern for this liaison are the new gTLD 
  program and the grant program - the new gTLD program because my 
  employer, Google, is a registry and registrar under contract 
  with ICANN, and the grant program because the parent 
  organizations of the IAB, which appointed me, may want to apply 
  for grants under the program.

  The applicaint guidebook for the grant program is being   
  finalized; once the rules are set, it should be possible to get 
  an assurance from IAB/IETF LLC/ISOC that I will not be put into 
  a position of possible conflict according to the guidebook rule.

  In the new gTLD program, the rules are further from being 
  finalized, but getting a similar assurance out of Google should 
  be possible - there is precedent for that with a previous IETF 
  liaison (Thomas Narten, who was employed by IBM).

  But at this moment, out of an abundance of caution, I have 
  recused myself from participating in discussion on these two topics.

--End ICANN Liaison Report, Harald Alvestrand --


3. draft-iab-privacy-partitioning-05 

  The IAB approved this document pending confirmation from the 
  authors that all comments have been addressed. 


4. Open consultations with the UN 

  Mallory Knodel reported that several consultations are coming up 
  through various UN processes. She proposed using an upcoming 
  tech talk slot to bring in people from the community who follow 
  this area to suggest how the IAB can contribute with a statement 
  of its own or in support of other statements.


5. Executive Session: Publication of national crypto in the IS stream 

  This topic was discussed in executive session with the Security Area
  Directors and the Crypto Forum Research Group Chairs.


6. Executive Session: Independent Submissions Editor Appointment

  This topic was deferred to a future meeting. 


7. Executive Session: ICANN Technical Liaison Group Appointment 

  Cindy Morgan will send an e-vote on the ICANN Technical Liaison 
  Group appointment.


8. Executive Session: Multistakeholder Platform on ICT Standardization
  
  This topic was deferred to a future meeting.


9. Next IAB Meeting 

  The next IAB meeting will be on 2024-01-31.